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Don't talk bollocks. Happy to lap her up when she spoke at the protest last year. You all turned on her because she stopped reading from the anti-SISU sermon.

It's a continual trail of bad decisions that include SISU and previous owners, exacerbated by the fact that shit/average players are generally far too overpaid. Would you prefer us to continue to do things in the wrong way...?? Because that's going to solve the problem isn't it? I agree the...

What do you expect when the money in is significantly less than the money out? This has been going on for the last 11-12 years. A big factor is that too many bang average players get paid a shit load of money.

At least they are trying to engage with fans.. they should know they have an awful lot to do to build fans trust up again. As Tony said, both sides need to swallow a bit of pride and find some way to return to Ricoh, even if on a temporary basis. This would have to include some deal on revenue...

Totally agree with that.

Dear Elvis, Stop pissing about with nothing press releases, re-sign Murphy for a start, and people may believe what you are saying.

I think it's a good idea.

It's not that I'm pleased at all, i have said from the start that I don't think ACL is financially viable without a football club. Going forward they are now paying 100% rates on the Ricoh without anyone to help them pay it which is going to eat into that profit further. For me just shows even...

It's clear that the rates should have been paid by both ACL and CCFC. CCFC paid it all (including what ACL should have paid). So it might not be a case of ripping off, but CCFC were clearly owed money, which ACL is liable for. It might not a big deal in terms of the dispute, buts it's a bill...

What does that mean?

Thanks for clarification. So could an appeal by ACL in theory run concurrently with a claim from the owners to have the overcharge backdated further?

So the club have their money - this is now between ACL and CCC. Have I read that right? We've had so far... Higgs vs SISU SISU vs ACL/CCC/Higgs Are we going to have ACL vs CCC?? You thought it was complicated now....

Not like you to play down a story John....

OK fair enough... on that comment. You say I only seem to target ACL/CCC in my posts, and you are probably correct. There are more than enough people here on this forum that hold SISU exclusively for blame. I don't - they are both culpable. So I feel that my comments are needed to add some...

I don't disagree with any of your points, and I wasn't saying that you personally was giving out abuse, and certainly not to me. You are right - the forum is a place to give out views, and clearly our views don't match up. But some other people need to realise that if someone has a view they...

Really?? Without turning this into another argument, there is plenty of 'abuse' coming from the anti-SISU camp. In fact the very thing you are complaining about is the thing you do most frequently.

Am i going to upset your precious council? Maybe if BOTH parties stopped this ridiculous stand-off we may get somewhere.

I know.... If only we could have our own stadium and access to some commercial revenues to negate the reliance on an owners money.....

What Astute constantly seems to ignore is that the owners can put equity in to increase the wage fund if they choose to. I do get the scepticism of that though, but people continually misquote and misunderstand how the FFP (SCMP) works.

So when a journalist looks extensively into said dispute, he gets immediately derided because he doesn't say the things the 'popular' opinion want to hear. It's not to do with being anti-CCC - it's about wanting to know the truth from everyone.