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But what benefits the club also benefits sisu - and that's the problem for isn't it?

Ah, so 'the majority' is defined as those who do not attend games at sixfields?

You keep on saying 'the majority'. What majority is that? Who are they? Go to GMK and 'the majority' looks different, doesn't it? Then you say the majority is cheesed off at not having their opinions heard. Well, I think you're right there. I know I am tired of not being able to have a reasoned...

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I give up.

Oh please - come on. At least quote properly: If your answer to all four of these questions is "yes", your assistance is almost certainly state aid. If some of your answers are "no" or if you are unsure, seek advice And there are given examples and explanations - e.g.: 　 An "undertaking" is...

From the introduction: The UK and EU support strong state aid rules to ensure aid is well targeted to address market failures and avoid negative effects on competition. With strong rules, those who receive advantages from the state won’t become overly reliant on aid and will remain incentivised...

That EU legislation takes precedence over national legislation?

If the discussion is about the JR, then taxpayers interest is beside the point. It's about the loan being given on commercially fair conditions and in compliance within state aid guidelines.

Is the CCC loan to ACL approved by EU? Does it have to be?

CCC is NOT a company - they cannot simply be compared to a private company. They have to comply to a different set of rules - state aid is one such set of rules. They cannot just issue a loan on commercially beneficial terms for a private company - linked or not, owned or not - if this can be...

Can you even appeal the JR decision? Maybe bring before the court in Luxembourg?

I really don't know how they would work the details, but it would probably not be too difficult to do some sort of silent administration process where ARVO buys the debt owed to the 5 initial funds at say 1p in the pound. Or even less. For all we know the initial debts is written down to nil...

They lose: 7) They hand over the keys to ARVO who will build a new stadium They win: 7) They will agree purchase of the shares in ACL

Actually, they did take us over because we are a football club. This was Ranson's project and vision even if we were not his first choice. He wanted a football club.

I agree completely - and it really wasn't aimed at you, more aimed at the general public :-) But then let me also add that as long as the club is 'a professional football club' money will always be involved and any owner will either be a sugar daddy for the love of the club or someone who will...

First of all - it's naïve to think sisu have any altruistic motive. They're doing what is best for them. In most cases that would also mean doing what is best for the club. But your sentence in bold may hold the key to most confusion ... sisu have build that barrier on purpose, they are not...

True - and Leon Clarke was on 8k/w. They are pushing down player wages as fast as they can.

They weren't the bomb squad then - they were actually playing.

Not taking money off themselves though if the original funds were not owned(!) but managed by sisu and if ARVO is owned (not just managed) by sisu.