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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I am not ranting, just answering in your tone. Farage and Johnson were not counted as irrelevant by most people. They got a hell of a lot of air-time. You are clearly of the same opinion as Farage, maybe it is just coincidence. "The exodus of Syrian refugees into Turkey was transformed...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The refendum was not binding - where do I say it was not legal? I said that at the end of the day, only parliament can pull the trigger - not May, unless she uses an outdated and controversial Royal Perogative. That would not be democratic. Please check the facts and come back to me on that.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. I am not accusing 52% of the population as being racist. Some obviously are, but probably a minority, and I am not accusing everyone of listening to Farage, although some like to use his type of language.,
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I am not getting nasty. Ernie called me clueless. I pointed out that he was clueless. Speak to Ernie about name calling.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In other words, you haven't got a clue what is going on. You believe farage. You think that Syria will last forever. You don't realise the amount of young people without prospects in Africa and the geographical closeness of Africa to southern Italy ( Scilily and the islands ). Pointing out facts...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Do you read the news or watch TV? Where are the refugees landing at the moment? Where were they before Merkel said "wir schaffen es" ( relating to the scenario at Budapest station - not an invitation 'for as many people as possible' to come to Europe, as that little shit, Farage, constantly...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Did you read the article? Did you read my post? It said that the situation in Italy was bad and that it had got worse because of the insecurity caused by Brexit. Not bias, and nowhere have I said that the Eurozone's and Europe's problems are all down to brexit. They may well have got worse...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The article states that the problems stem from the 2008 crash. Refugees and now brexit are making it worse. Geography is the problem regarding refugees - and the attitude of countries such as Britain not wanting to share the burden. The self inflected brexit is not only damaging Britain, but...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The people I have spoken to are not even calculating the effects of GDP or the Uk's contribution, they just think we are mad and are amazed at BoJo and Farage legging it. TBF a couple of right wingers have said "thank you". Not surprised at that though.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Farage said in advance that 52:48 would be unfinished business. He is an expert at silly childish behaviour along with BoJo and I have no doubt they would be making stupid protests if remain had won.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Juncker will go. His position is untennable. Yamyams are black country... Merkel is resilient and 48% is amazing considering 1 million refugees in 1 year. The main thing being that the AfD ( our UKIP ) are falling apart after making a tweet about the "national" team losing - there are people...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I never claimed everything you said was wrong. Sometimes you go on "this will not effect the pound in your pocket" stance - weak is good. Other times you say the Euro is weak and the pound will overtake it - strong is good. Plus you ask me about populism in Germany and claim I never mention it...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, I am saying that the narrative seems to 'flow' backwards and forwards.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Our currency has been weak because of being in the EU? It was also, apparently, over valued and due to fall/ has been falling. It is good for exporters when it is weak. Was it weak- good for exporters - due to the EU? If it strenghtens then the exporters will suffer - due to leaving the EU?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It is easy with hindsight to find the experts that got it wrong - or right if it suits. We haven't left yet, we haven't Even accepted the result and triggered article 50. Interest rates could still go up, there could still be an emergency budget. As I say, we haven't left the EU and the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    TBF we've only had 2 weeks and nothing has happened yet. The fun starts when the new PM tells us what the plan is - assuming she has one. The EU meeting in Bratislava is also in September. I would like to see what their reaction to Brexit is. If brexit lite, or a loophole has been found to...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    1. the signs are ( property funds on hold ) and the predictions are saying that we are entering a recession- the chancellor is preparing for one. 2. being part of a federal state is not direct rule on all matters. We don't know how far the EU will go, or what form the EU version of a federal...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Merkel's statement 'wir schaffen es' doesn't fit in with the boring rant of 'Mein Kampf'. That was more about blaming others for the country's problems. I don't think that it's author would have helped a million refugees. He was a demagogue more for leaving international Organisations such as...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Impossible to know who voted for the right reasons. I don't agree that the young people that voted remain have more money. Maybe the older ones, but I don't know.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    If remain had won we would have had stability. We would not be entering a voluntary recession and we would not have hundreds of civil servants and lawyers having to entangle us from 40 years of integration. Cameron would be PM and Labour would not be imploding. Sturgeon would have nothing to say...
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