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  1. chiefdave

    Trust!

    I've heard the wages are great :)
  2. chiefdave

    Fallen out of love after 62 years...

    Isn't the JSB stuff run by volunteers out of their own pocket (or fundraising) not the club? Don't get me wrong it's fantastic they do it but it is absolutely correct that we are losing fans. Some may return, some won't. My Dad had been going for 60 years prior to the Sixfields move, now half...
  3. chiefdave

    Fugazi

    So on the deeds it would say I'd paid you £140K?
  4. chiefdave

    Trust!

    I'm thinking of a career change. You never know could end up working with Grendel!
  5. chiefdave

    Fugazi

    Look at it another way, instead of taking the initial YB loan ACL had the option to pay yearly for the lease, I think it was £1m a year. If they had taken that option and with Wasps having 250 years left to go on the lease would you say they had paid CCC £255.4m?
  6. chiefdave

    Fugazi

    That's not really the same thing even if you ignore the fact that the bank could have taken your flat off you if you hadn't paid them! A better analogy is this, you purchase your flat for £130K. You then take out a loan of £15K to renovate. You then sell the flat to me, I say I will pay the...
  7. chiefdave

    Anyone Going To The JSB Christmas Party Later?

    So it was you that upset him then!
  8. chiefdave

    Fallen out of love after 62 years...

    To be honest I find that increasingly difficult. With the revolving door of players it's hard to feel any real attachment. I know players have always left but at least we'd get a few years out of them.
  9. chiefdave

    Fallen out of love after 62 years...

    I feel similar, it's not now fun. It requires a concerted effort on my part to stay interested. The easiest thing to do would be to walk away and be one of those fans who just checks the scores and turns up when we draw a big team.
  10. chiefdave

    Wasps Sub Forum

    1) what do you think Anne Lucas meant when she said words to the effect of. I have contacted Joy Sepella asking her to contact me regarding doing a deal regarding stadium ownership? I think she meant I she had contacted Joy Sepella asking Joy to contact Ann regarding doing a deal regarding...
  11. chiefdave

    Trust!

    Will one of the benefits of the Trust membership card be cheap tickets to see Wasps :sarcasm:
  12. chiefdave

    Fugazi

    Look at it this way, you lend me £1m to buy a factory. I then sell that factory to Coca Cola, they pay me £200K and will continue to make the loan payments to you, there's £500K outstanding on the loan. Have Coca Cola just paid you £500K to buy my factory or have they paid me £200K to buy it? I...
  13. chiefdave

    Fugazi

    Even if it is with Wasps it's still not part of the sale price. The original loan was to ACL to buy an asset. In simple terms if ACL was taken over or it wasn't CCC were due that money. If you buy a box factory and there's still a loan outstanding for the box making machine you don't add the...
  14. chiefdave

    Fugazi

    They've paid £5.2m, that's it. Any suggestion otherwise is spin to try and make the deal look better, from CCC's point of view, than it was. Wasps don't owe a penny to the council, it's ACL that owe the money and they are the ones that will make repayments not Wasps. £5.2m is crazy when you...
  15. chiefdave

    Fugazi

    Albatross, I have no idea why you are going to such great lengths to defend the council when they have just screwed the club you're supposed to support for decades to come. I mean I hate SISU as much as anyone but it doesn't mean I want to put the future of the club at risk just to annoy them...
  16. chiefdave

    Wasps Sub Forum

    Clearly you have wasted your time as you have in no way answered that question. To be fair you can't, only CCC and Higgs can and they won't answer, to meet that indicates they didn't offer SISU a similar deal.
  17. chiefdave

    Trust!

    I've been a big defender of the Trust but I feel the same. The trust should be asking serious questions of all parties including CCC and Higgs regarding their role in the sale to Wasps but seem very reluctant to do so. There's been missive after missive from the Trust aimed at SISU but the same...
  18. chiefdave

    Fugazi

    Surely they would be accurate to the date the accounts cover not the date filed which can be months later. In fact checked at Companies House there are still no accounts filed that cover a period in which we weren't playing there so the same fact remains. CCC were claiming everything was fine...
  19. chiefdave

    Fugazi

    But again if that is correct the council have not been truthful when talking about the health of ACL. Remember the outrage every time Fisher said anything about ACL needing CCFC or ACL not performing as well as was being made out. Seems he was right. I never in a million years thought I'd be...
  20. chiefdave

    Fugazi

    Interesting point that leads to a couple of questions: 1) could Wasps not have taken out a commercial loan to repay the council thus avoiding any accusations of CCC providing a loan in dubious circumstances. 2) did the council protect their investment or have they in fact lost money by selling...
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