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Not from me you don't because I don't have any time for SISU either. However we seem to get the same old rants about SISU from the same posters any time anyone raises the slightest criticism of ACL (and that is usually criticism aimed at the Council influence within ACL) Just because I and...

Oh right :facepalm: that makes it all ok then ...

The council (50% ACL) has absolutely nothing to answer for. Everything it has done has been with the best interests of CCFC at heart. Not.

Yes there IS something to stop CCC selling their 50% share to a more trustworthy owner in future ... THE COUNCIL ... in the words of Mutton "if a FANTASTIC OFFER came in" for the Council's shares, the full council COULD vote on a change of policy. SO IT SEEMS A SENSIBLE REALISTIC MARKET OFFER...

Feck me ... will everyone please take a chill pill ... i'm off to bed

Original post by Grendel:- He means that the council will refuse anyone the ability to own the ground or gain maximum revenue from it - a view that worryingly many of our fans support. Well actually Cllr Maton seems to be inclined that way ... [COLOR=#3e3e3e]

[QUOTE Cllr. Kevin Maton tweetref. Stuart Linnell on-air comments:- History of running Highfield Rd. poor.Sharing income deal can be done. There's more to Ricoh than the pitch.] [COLOR=#3e3e3e]

If success is measured by win % relative to the population size of a single-club town or city, then we are indisputably the least successful of any club in a city of comparable size and expectation. This season, despite being royally bum-fucked by SISU/ACL/CCC, it still feels like our most...

What the f..k is team 5?

Glory supporter !!!! :whistle:

Feck me. Were you born unlucky?

Nooooo .... not effin' WBA ... BOING BOING!! Errr ... on second thoughts a well run club 8th in the Prem, no SISU, no ACL, no CCC? I'm off ... cya suckers!!

Not sure about that ... might be wrong but haven't WBA yo-yo'd up and down between Championship and Prem in the past simply because their Board refused to spend money they didn't have on players wages in the Prem, and just steadily built up their stability

Cheers OSB, best analysis yet of the situation IMHO Would love to see PWKH's thoughts on this ...

Yes the keywords are responsible ownership, and I see few on here associating that with SISU, least of all me. I absolutely disagree that match day revenues are sufficient for CCFC, and we seem to be on a different page on this because you talk about survival while I talk about progression...

I haven't noticed anyone on here lately suggesting that the club should get the stadium or access to revenue and profits for free, but I do see a growing number that believe the club needs access to all the revenue and profit the Arena can generate, way beyond F&B (and I would suggest more than...

The fundamental problem here is not that CCFC wages are too high, though yes wages could be spent more effectively (in some cases) by employing players that actually earn what they are being paid, and the answer is not to pay players less because generally you get what you pay for and that is...

Not defending SISU but on a point of clarity SISU wanted access to revenues beyond just F&B, to include also such things as parking, advertising, and stadium sponsorship, all of which the football club arguably adds value to.

I agree with your attitude towards SISU to a point, as it has mismanaged the club, has contributed in large part to the sorry state we are now in, its dealings with ACL have been poor, and its communication with the fans is abysmal. However I don't understand why your predominant attitude...

If our ambition is just to survive at this level like Walsall and remain as tenants at the Ricoh then we might as well all give up now.