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  1. mrtrench

    Planet Earth 2

    Oooooooooooh the disappointment. I thought Duran Duran had a new single.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, well we've already got the measure of your dodgy musical taste. ;)
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Nope, a stingy middle aged bloke.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I prefer "careful"
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    FA Cup draw

    I've a mate who is a Cambridge fan. We went to see them in their cup run in 198/9x? for a couple of ties. First time I saw Dion play.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Cheeky. If you have a picture in your head of me as a tweed-sporting dandy you'd be disappointed. Still have a Cov' accent and dress in 20 year old clothes.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Chief Dave and Astute. I agree with you. I haven't made myself clear. I know many families who have just enough to get by every month. Ashdown has a point that many of these families also have the latest iphone and gadgets that I wouldn't imagine buying for myself because I'm frugal - but...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    How do you get a mortgage when you already owe £50k of university debt?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I agree with everything you say Astute. I wasn't talking about people in temporary accommodation or people who work and are just getting by paying huge rent. Indeed it is their plight that took me also down the route of voting Leave; I see huge problems down the line for young people in debt...
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    Trainspotting 2

    Oh I didn't realise yes porno is ancient
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    Trainspotting 2

    Already? It only seems a few months ago that he wrote the book.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    A fuller reply to Sick Boy. I'm extremely dubious of claims of hardship in the UK - we have a safety net. I'm extremely dubious of anecdotal evidence from the Left because it's the same old rhetoric they have used over and over again to gain power and fuck the countries they conquer (see...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It was with the manufacture of class hatred and jealousy that Mao and Stalin came to power. Mao turned the peasants with no land against those with only the smallest amount, whilst all the time caring not a fig for the poor and lavishing himself with luxury. Absolutely, the wealthy should and...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I'll reply fully later; have to work now. What I will say is that I don't believe that anyone can become wealthy; but there are opportunities for those with the fortune to be born with intelligence and the attitude to do so. One more point: just because person A becomes more wealthy than...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I am not dismissing poverty. I really feel for all the people globally that have nothing and little hope or ability to do anything about it. But that is not the situation in the UK. Why do you think it is that people are prepared to camp in Calais for a chance to come to the UK? Is France...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Please explain why that is Tony, because I think the opposite.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Completely disagree. 1) Poverty is defined as an income percentage of the average (something like 60% of the median I think). Therefore poverty is constant and caused by nothing. By definition it always exists. 2) Nobody in this country is poor on global standards unless they choose to be so...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Some good points Mart; I'd forgotten about Communism. Many of your points are similar to mine - how free movement is killing poorer countries: we need people to stay to become entrepreneurs in their native countries but it's much easier to move away. The gutter press is called the gutter...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The benefits of investment are dwarfed by the economic impact of EMU. Yes, they were poor before, but they could cope because they could control their own fx rate. Now they cannot. It's similar to me to the ERM debacle and GBP. It will all come crashing down in the same way IMO.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Free movement isn't bad in its own right; it's bad in the context of a currency that fails most of Europe.
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