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  1. oldskyblue58

    Lee Carsley promoted

    Wonder how Gregor Rioch and the rest of the academy staff feel about all the academy success being down to Carsley ? Dont get me wrong I think bringing in Carsley is the right thing to do ......... but I feel Rioch and his staff do not get the recognition they deserve. Where would we have been...
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    Clarke-Harris

    what CC4L says ....... have seen the lad a few times playing for U18's and although a bit rough rough the edges he really can hit a ball, would have thought he would have been one to keep ..... especially as we lack goals!
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    If you care do something and stop moaning?

    First off I would never put down anyone for trying to raise the issue in any legal way they can. I really do not think the Olympics is the place to do it - It is an event aimed at show casing our city and there is a potential for future investment that goes way beyond CCFC - Security...
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    Push Council for STADIUM OWNERSHIP not reduced rent!!

    ACL have a 40 year rental agreement with CCFC signed sealed and delivered. It cannot just be varied on a say so of Mutton etc. It takes time and requires proof of why it should be varied. Similarly a sale would take time and require not just proof of funds to buy but also proof of business plan...
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    Push Council for STADIUM OWNERSHIP not reduced rent!!

    Doesnt look good does it. Yes it will hurt ACL if CCFC go bust thats for sure but it doesnt mean ACL would follow CCFC Presently ACL have a reasonable expectation of £500K profit to redevelop the site after paying interest on loans of £1m. Any investor in CCFC is going to have to come up with...
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    Push Council for STADIUM OWNERSHIP not reduced rent!!

    Other than being shareholders no Vick but both Council and Charity have a seat on the Board of ACL. I think that there would be big regulatory obstacles to both the Council and Charity to be directly involved in running CCFC even if that is through ACL. The purpose of ACL is to own the long...
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    Push Council for STADIUM OWNERSHIP not reduced rent!!

    so what you are saying is that ACL transfer the Ricoh to CCFC in return for shares in CCFC. That only works if CCFC has a balance sheet value of £0 or above and ACL owns 100% of CCFC. Otherwise if they only have say 50% of the shares they are gifting in effect 50% of the stadium to CCFC. The...
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    Rumours Abound

    heard they let his contract run down to save on the wages and got no fee Otis
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    BBCtv = Southampton TV

    Must admit i didnt like the way they started interviewing while game was going on ......... but it was Southamptons day of success and the coverage reflected that. What would you honestly expect.... apart from the in match interview I dont have much problem with it Strachan was the only one in...
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    Match Thread vs Southampton

    Think you have to look past the result against a team that has been top two all season - during which time we have spent most time in the bottom three of the 16 players we had 8 that were under 23 - 2 that only got squad numbers last week. 3 or 4 Players that had a few weeks ago played against...
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    Thorn's interview

    missed it ...... what did he say ?
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    This deserves its own thread Old Sky Blue

    it isnt a matter of whether i like it or not is it ...... we have to deal with what is. Do i think it could have been done better - well yes but I bet SISU feel the same. As for communication, well the whole game is based on communication - it isnt the fans that are out of kilter. Like it or...
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    on way to Southampton

    One of the few sources of positivity I have this season are the SBA. Cant be there but have a great day all !! respect, pride and PUSB OSB
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    This deserves its own thread Old Sky Blue

    dont think the debt is anywhere near as big as ARVO but i think the debt that will always control it is the amount owed to Sconset which is unsecured. Both are controlled by SISU. I think SISU are making this pretty water tight. But I see what you are saying :). A limiting factor is going to...
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    This deserves its own thread Old Sky Blue

    CCFC have a 40 year lease on the Ricoh. If all the assets of CCFC are charged to ARVO then ACL can have a huge contingent liability claim it wont matter because there are no assets they can chase to satisfy it. The only remedy they have is to kick CCFC out
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    This deserves its own thread Old Sky Blue

    Not always so ..... say for example that ARVO provided some services to CCFC ............ not saying this is so but say ARVO obtained the services of certain advisors at say favourable amounts in respect of the club................. then they recharged this sum to CCFC at full value or a...
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    This deserves its own thread Old Sky Blue

    with respect we were not talking about the financial causes of all this we were discussing the failure on both sides in the quality of communication. Most organisations will lose their way, alienate clients if the owners are not clear in their objectives, their plan to achieve them and their...
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    This deserves its own thread Old Sky Blue

    only in so far as the debts are covered by unsecured assets. ARVO will have first claim on the assets they have listed on the debenture Football creditors rule should be scrapped ..... I can not think of a moral or legal case for it. It doesnt exist in Scotland btw
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    This deserves its own thread Old Sky Blue

    I agree, these matters are best dealt with calmly away from the press however SISU's appointed representatives (the directors) have never been shy to paint the council in a poor light press wise in the past. It isnt all one sided and politicians are apt to seek publicity in election years as...
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    This deserves its own thread Old Sky Blue

    I am pretty certain that both the charity and council will have appointed some high powered accountants and lawyers to help them deal with SISU. They have had plenty of experience as to how SISU operate and are fore warned.
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