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Like I said Godiva my input in this thread is educated guesswork.......... it could be miles off the mark i am comfortable with that ................ I dont think it is though and a loss of 1m or 2m is still a loss that has to be funded.

mine was more of a general comment skyblueman not aimed at your good self as such, and from what we know your view point is just as valid as mine :) .

Just to back Godiva up on something........... none of the parties involved in this are stupid or clueless......... SISU, the CCFC board, ACL, Council, Charity all have skills that are relevant or the ability to bring in those skills.

would agree that they must have a plan Godiva, I think cost cutting is certainly key to it....... do you think it is or going to be successful?

certainly one conclusion you could draw from it sbj Is CCFC a "money pit" and are SISU caught deep in a hole with no positive way out? If so where does that leave CCFC's future?

some of the questions 1) can CCFC ever be profitable without significant reduction in wage costs. If that has to happen is FFP really relevant to what needs to be done? Does CCFC need to be profitable? 2)would wage costs reductions lead to poor team performance on the pitch. Doesnt...

I posted this elsewhere yesterday...... not saying it is anything more than a guess...... it isnt about taking sides ....... I have some questions I want to ask folk here " I have argued for a long time that it has to be run it has to be run within its means. There is no sugar daddy, SISU have...

Torch ........ if my post is anywhere close then SISU's business model isnt very clever either ...... even if they got the income streams and no rent to pay

Godiva ...... the answers to most of that is in my original post and others ...... you have to do some work yanno :)

very true ..... the total income i used included 330k for that (apparently was £1m over 3 years)

I havent Grendel but that would be £1m per year max I would guess...... not sure CCFC will get that, they might get part. But even then we still make losses without selling players and good cup runs...... should they have all that income?

am tempted to say well it has been since 1996 and it is still, and is still likely to be next year.......... so it can be run at a loss However more seriously ....................... I have argued for a long time that it has to be run it has to be run within its means. There is no sugar...

mediation could be a double edge sword for both parties ............... i also suspect one or other of the parties (even both) will refuse to be bound by it ... just a question of who says it first. It is of course important to know what is being mediated. It would seem that the amount of the...

so in the context of the current discussions which are the only ones that matter, and includes discussion by both parties of rights to match day income, it (the £24m) has absolutely no relevance then

oh dear, oh dear :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: I have nothing to prove to you chap......... sorry not about to bite to it...... but if you are seeking to discredit me it is not working each to their own opinion............... got no problem with that. Carry on promoting yours if nothing...

so let me get this right .......... both Tim Fisher and a director of ACL (each closely involved in the actual negotiations) have both said that the figure of £24m plays no part in the current negotiations.............. but because a daily mail journalist said it then it has to be fact ??

correct me if i am wrong but wasn't it Ray Ranson who sold this idea to SISU........ who had a responsibility to their investors to do or have done proper through due diligence to protect their investment and obtain an adequate return. Usual things for any investor to do including hedge funds or...

and you know this because ?

Honest answer is I do not know there is no information to go on. A guess would be that in the current foinancial year we are pushing towards breakeven but still making a loss. Factor in the sales of Keogh and Bigi, the receipts from the cup runs including Arsenal and Spurs, the reduction in...

that would be a club with massive debts and all its assets hocked to the eyeballs would it ?