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just a thought................ but if TF gets the rent down and agreed levels for higher divisions, gets access at no or low cost to match day income streams, has a team competing for promotion, drives other costs down, gets players on less costly contracts, no more money from SISU...

The deal with the council backed loan reduced the risk though SBT. Not saying it wouldnt be a massive struggle to stay afloat for ACL if CCFC left but it isnt like saying they are now showing a net 728k loss before loss of profit share on the joint venture They have i understand made a saving...

pretty much yes don....... except such deposits usually cover repairs etc when the tenant leaves

"Regarding the effect of FFP rules on CCFC ... The Football League's own website (http://www.football-league.co.uk/pag...748246,00.html) says "The SCMP (Salary Management Cost Protocol) broadly limits spending on total player wages to a proportion of each club's turnover", i.e. the total amount...

no i think those direct costs will be things like the purchase of goods to sell in the shop, pitch maintenance, playing insurance, kit and small equipment purchases, ticketing costs etc. He did mention £1m in direct costs but as rent is £1.3m it couldnt be part of it. In the 2011 accounts direct...

SBT - no catches when asking this - but what do you define as match day income ? also £500k of the demand relates to money a court has said the club needs to put back in the escrow account. Thats money that is not ACL's and sits in an account to cover default. Of course if in time the club can...

not that i am aware of but if you email the football league they should be able to tell you [email protected]

all fair points............ 18k could be light but it is 7k up on where we are now............ it might start higher but it so dependent on success..... add another 7k and things look brighter Could wing it but I just do not see our present squad holding its own in a higher division. We lack...

if it helps I posted a thread about how FFP is calculated earlier http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/26949-FFP-rules Rent btw is classed as an overhead not a cost of sales

You would have to think that without major additional funds then CCFC would struggle. Say we got the match day income estimate £2m, say there was the additional league income and TV money (TF said dropping from Championship to L1 was worth £3.7m in that respect). That would give us 5.7m extra...

was told subsequently that at the SCG he denied he had said it but thats just hearsay............ you know as well as i do things said change daily question everything believe only what can be proven, even then keep hold of an element of doubt ............. and that applies to all sides Got...

it was the other way round at Xmas when it suited SISU. Fail to see the big problem to be honest, both sides use the media when it suits them. Both sides have issued press releases that have antagonised the other side. No point, or justification in either side running around claiming " please...

might get a little more than that but yes its a fair point

Since that fans forum Godiva Annual Returns have been filed at Company House for all group companies that should list any increase in equity.......... there were no changes. Of course it may have happened since those returns but it certainly doesnt seem to have happened when TF said it had...

not sure ACL hold all the cards but they certainly have a stronger hand than they used to. If the object of the project is to sell to a serious developer then why sell to SISU and let them take the profit. If you think that the club would ever own the site then i think you may well be...

yes I did JG ..... just thought it would be useful to people to repost

there is a rider to that ........ unless you have funds from other sources (loans, owners deep pockets etc) then you might not have the cash to max out to 65% of turnover. If there are direct costs associated with that turnover (eg catering would have the costs of food and staff wages etc) then...

Keeps being mentioned so thought it would be useful to post the replies I have had regarding the calculation from the Football League income Income generated by a club that forms part of its football activities such as, commercial revenues, gate revenues, solidarity payments, Football...

all good questions

No problem at all SB........ it is why I am asking questions not just making a statement. Certainly the day to day running of football operations seems much more focussed and appropriate this season, some lessons I think have been learnt.