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  1. oldskyblue58

    Investors

    wouldnt disagree, but there might be reasons why an investor wants to........ depends on the price and structure of the deal. You could for example do an earn out on the other streams so there is no up front costs, that might leave more to back the team on the pitch, increase FFP income, then as...
  2. oldskyblue58

    Investors

    why do they have to give it up (i assume that means free)........... It can be bought, leased, earned out, ........... in total or in part................ but that has always been the case since CCFC moved into the Ricoh, who is to say a new owner couldnt achieve that? It will take more than...
  3. oldskyblue58

    SISU can make money on Coventry City liquidating.....

    yes ............. i think it would be unrealistic to think that they are not capable of success in other fields............ it would be just a question of switching funds around. CCFC is but a very small part of the JS web of funds, investments and businesses
  4. oldskyblue58

    SISU say they may "get out of town" next week

    To be fair torch I think there are a lot of reasons why SISU are getting the full brunt of the reaction there is a culmulative effect of decades of poor management for starters Previous regimes havent been so media savvy for example..... thats a double edge sword. When TF says something...
  5. oldskyblue58

    SISU can make money on Coventry City liquidating.....

    We can all get pedantic SBT ............. the OP's original post was very much opinion........... the second post threw in a couple of "facts" that in his mind supported his opinion, there are others facts not included that would contra at least some of it so my opinion Throwing 20 players...
  6. oldskyblue58

    SISU can make money on Coventry City liquidating.....

    actually it is his opinion ............ perfectly valid but still only opinion
  7. oldskyblue58

    SISU can make money on Coventry City liquidating.....

    BSB ............. got to be honest I dont see the point in many of the things they are doing BG ....... i am just guessing but I would assume loss relief will be a similar process in the Cayman Isles but at different rates
  8. oldskyblue58

    SISU can make money on Coventry City liquidating.....

    There are some very clever insolvency guys working on this and with the money at stake there are still twists to come ........... SISU must have some plan otherwise as you sawhy continue funding....... what the plan is I have no idea, everything I can think of seems to end up unviable for one...
  9. oldskyblue58

    SISU can make money on Coventry City liquidating.....

    in a sense yes but the key difference in appointing an administrator is (aside from the fees) is that SISU/TF no longer run it. The administrator has a duty to get the best deal he can for the creditors as a body or to liquidate. At present SISU run it to get the best deal for them (as is their...
  10. oldskyblue58

    SISU can make money on Coventry City liquidating.....

    administration or liquidation is not a good option really but it appears to be where we are heading I dont get the distinction that the OP makes between apparently no tax losses in admin and a tax advantage in liquidation. If the club goes into liquidation then SISU lose an apparent £45m...
  11. oldskyblue58

    Does Elvis know something we don't know.

    Not suggesting for one moment that the League are conspiring in any wrong doing JG, but they have a duty to consider proposals from a member club especially if that maintains the "integrity" of the league in their opinion. It is going to depend on what they are told, what questions they ask, the...
  12. oldskyblue58

    Does Elvis know something we don't know.

    SISU have relied on ACL and the council not reacting quickly or not having the nerve to press the button all along. What has happened is that ACL has gone one step at a time and closed off options at each step for both sides but primarily SISU. (To get settlement then ACL have to take action...
  13. oldskyblue58

    3.5 year contract, compensation, is this CCFC?

    Agree with what you say Paxman. The thing that gives me a little confidence is that Waggott was involved.......... seems to be a knowledgeable football guy to me.
  14. oldskyblue58

    You know what...

    I think the important thing is he is who we have so we need to get behind him and to give him a decent chance. I think it will take a season or so for him to prove his worth especially with all the off field problems in terms of lack of funds, embargos etc affecting his ability to change things...
  15. oldskyblue58

    Does anyone know what CCFC's current turnover is?

    Reasonable guess for the year to 31/05/13 would be between 6 and 7 million including the sales of Keogh and Bigirimana (say 1.5m?) so turnover if crowds remain same next season £5.5m tops because we do not have any major player sales likely
  16. oldskyblue58

    ACL Group 2012 accounts

    Whether ACL survive without CCFC remains to be seen but it would appear they are setting out their stall to do so. Looking from purely a ACL point of view then it is only right that they try to insulate their business from the financial risk posed by CCFC. Nothing wrong in those actions, it is...
  17. oldskyblue58

    ACL Group 2012 accounts

    1) then with respect Grendel couch it in those terms rather than making a statement of opinion a statement of fact 2) doesnt mean it cant.......... we do not actually know do we. Clearly ACL are making moves in their structure, cost base and target market to get away from any reliance on CCFC...
  18. oldskyblue58

    ACL Group 2012 accounts

    one of the links posted says there is a footfall of 1.1m on the site - currently CCFC with an average attendance of 11063 that equates to approx 25% of total footfall. Significant certainly but ................. It may turn out to be a "white elephant" without ccfc (dont think so in my...
  19. oldskyblue58

    ACL Group 2012 accounts

    it isnt what the main sponsor thinks though is it ""Their future performance would play a small part in whether we renewed our contract but the key benefits are from concerts and other events." and in terms of revenue that is the only opinion that counts ..... doesnt matter if we think it...
  20. oldskyblue58

    ACL Group 2012 accounts

    There have been discussions regarding future income from sponsorship and naming rights at the stadium as far as ACL is concerned. Important part of their income and it is right to highlight potential problems etc. So did some quick google research and came up with these. There seems to be...
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