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  1. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    This is one of the entries in the CCC strategic housing plan 2011 - 2031 http://www.coventry.gov.uk/downloads/file/18834/draft_shlaa_appendices Site Name: Land around the rugby stadium, between the Butts and railway line Site Ref: S3 Site Area Gross (ha): 1.72 Site Location Plan Constraints...
  2. oldskyblue58

    Back to being the biggest club in Coventry?

    Happy New Year all Not got a lot of time to get involved in this right now. Its my busiest month of the year with the self assessment deadline. So will just make a couple of statements that are based on the audited accounts that have been filed. Bear in mind that the owners are specialists...
  3. oldskyblue58

    Happy Christmas

    Closing things down at the office this morning and looking forward to the Christmas break :) Just wanted to wish Tony Mowbray & team good luck over the important Christmas run of games and for the rest of the season. PUSB Finally we might not always see eye to eye on here...
  4. oldskyblue58

    CCFC take up 2 year extension at Ricoh

    so............. We are exactly where we all thought we would be. Other than some ink on a document nothing has changed. We are playing at the Ricoh and no alternative site has been secured, and it would seem that there are no serious detailed negotiations going on either at the BPA or any...
  5. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    underground car parks are much more expensive http://www.parkingconsultantsltd.com/6n.htm Would the club or its backers invest that sort of money and extend the build times significantly? but it could be done ............. but then again will it be needed:thinking about: The triangular area...
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    CCFC take up 2 year extension at Ricoh

    Hardly surprising. Where else were they going to take 12000+ Sky Blue fans. There isn't anywhere else that those fans would go to for now is there? So the terms are exactly the same. The second two years was at ACL's option not the club's according to the Wasp's prospectus. Again no real...
  7. oldskyblue58

    Chris Anderson interview

    Lot of fine words but little substance so far. Just my opinion but it seems there is an element of back tracking on previous positions held by the club/owners going on. Not a dig at Andersen to be honest he is new to the job still Of course he must do what is best for the club, that's his job...
  8. oldskyblue58

    Blatter & Platini

    Banned for 8 years from all football matters. That surely must end both their careers governing football. Rightly in my opinion The rambling news conference Blatter gave was embarrassing really. It is still everyone else's fault the contrast between these two and our own hero could not be...
  9. oldskyblue58

    Rip Jimmy Hill

    Irreplaceable, you put us as a club on the football map, provided us with much more than just memories, all done with a smile and belief that was infectious. To the football world in general he was one of a kind and led the way on so many things, ahead of his time in many ways. Always a...
  10. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    Ok lets put it in to some context. Just to be clear I do not think TF is a fool, he is a clever fella in many ways and has qualifications to back it up. I am also sure anything he says is for a purpose. It is not that I am disagreeing with a lot of what you are saying either but TF as a purveyor...
  11. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    Think everyone knew the rent was too high. Wouldn't dispute that it was. Hardly a vindication of TF though The bank was getting twitchy and yet sent a letter saying they were not willing to discount a settlement figure to 12m because they felt there was a viable business there in view of the...
  12. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    what was he right about exactly? or was all about a perception process with certain goals in mind? He said ACL was worthless I believe - turns out it wasn't, even SISU were prepared to offer £2m then two years later 2.8m for 50% seems it was going up in value what else ?
  13. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    Charity notified SISU that the period of exclusivity was over early August. And that they now were free to talk to anyone else that was interested In October 2012 SISU informed Charity that the shares were worthless but made a verbal offer of £2m which was turned down flat by the Charity...
  14. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    Zack First off this is going to be all conjecture and guesswork. I haven't seen their business plan or SISU's In reverse order..... no idea at all why 50 years, to my mind it is one of the things CCC got wrong. Should have been say 125 years then ACL could have given CCFC a 99 year lease ...
  15. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    No problem any one asking reasonable or reasoned questions Zack I took it in the manner you intended - its snide comments and untruths aimed in my direction I take exception to You could argue that the custodians of the club (the owners) had the biggest moral obligations to its supporters and...
  16. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    Lot of confusion about valuations The 5.5m that was agreed subject to due diligence was what AEHC was willing to accept from SISU for their 50 % interest in ACL. It is a negotiated figure that SISU agreed to pay and AEHC agreed to accept. As it turned out SISU decided the shareholding was...
  17. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    Sorry I am not sure I made it clear why I said £17m. (it is all guess work in any case) It has nothing to do with past share sales or loans from YB/CCC The question I was asked was about a 50% share sale now by Wasps. Those shares are linked to the bonds that were issued, there is a charge...
  18. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    This kind of thoughtless contradiction by TF etc irritates me. Take the latest CT article the RBC guy Mr Stokes says “There’s nothing of a stadium nature in the local plan. We have had no more contact with them since the meeting. There has been no talks, correspondence or anything.” (the...
  19. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    We are, as stupot and I, have said many times between a rock and a hard place. Sadly getting promoted may not make it easier either Yes there were many involved in bringing us to this place..... that's been done to death over and over. What we need now is to know the way out for our...
  20. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    To be honest Nick it wont have anything to do with PR. Not sure they (Wasps) are massively ahead in public opinion either, if at all. This is has to be for them about hard finance. That wont please posters like NW I know but that's where it is at. The Wasps "project" is and always has been a...
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