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  1. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    The bond holders have a charge not only over the long lease but also the ACL shares and assets. Any change in that situation (eg a sale of some ACL shares) affects the security value that the bondholders have. The bond holder trustees may say that the sale doesn't change the value or even...
  2. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    Nothing wrong with that view Paxman :) I very much like the thought of CCFC being successful first and foremost on the pitch. Remain to be convinced as to how that promotion push is financed though given the level of debt/pseudo debt (pref shares) we have and the need for income that Wasps have...
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    Butts Park Arena is new home

    Please do not read this as a justification for Wasps being here - it isn't. Just my view of why some of the things suggested will not happen. It could of course be wrong. First thing to understand is that this is not a short term plan by Wasps. It is not based on the next couple of years...
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    Supporters' group tells Coventry City FC owners to clarify stadium plans

    As you say its a consultation document and could change. Is there a specific section for sports facilities in any supporting documents? I think that there is a similar process going on at CCC due to be published in January 2016 for consultation. You might expect that a stadium...
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    Momentum

    I think another indication of the momentum is that the TV pundits are talking about us in really positive terms (eg SSN last night) That gives the push to promotion a little more impetus. We have gone from a team that it is news if we get a couple of wins in a row to one where people are going...
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    Capacity in the unlikely hood of a new stadium should be ?

    roughly apply that to a 15000 average crowd and that's £690k take out the direct costs (as required by FL SCMP calc.) say 50% leaves 345k to put in to the final SCMP calculation, take the relevant proportion allowed at 60% leaves additional SCMP budget limit at 207K. Hardly big numbers. So it...
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    Capacity in the unlikely hood of a new stadium should be ?

    breakdown is nothing like as detailed dave. Split Matchday, catering, other Also Brighton average crowd was 27k so that affects comparisons plus i am not supposed to ask questions about such things on here its apparently a silly thing to do :whistle:
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    Capacity in the unlikely hood of a new stadium should be ?

    The Brighton accounts do give an insight in to incomes they get based on average crowds over 27K Ticketing 10.4m we get and would get this income direct not dependent on ownership of ground but is dependent on capacity FL and central distributions 4.9m we get or would get this income direct...
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    Capacity in the unlikely hood of a new stadium should be ?

    They bought the 125 year lease for 5.3m in another group company. The operating company pays the property company £1m pa. But it does stay within the group. They owe the owner something like 134m interest free and it looks like every year he issues shares to cover the losses they make (over...
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    Credit to SISU

    I am tempted to say they have done that already when the CCFC went in to administration 2013 compared to 2008 when they came so close it or liquidation :whistle: But I understand the sentiment Astute. We need to look at present and forward, we cant change the past, maybe we can influence what...
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    Credit to SISU

    Just a few thoughts and yes some questions ......... that should please someone :whistle: For me the scales are still heavily balanced in the direction of what they have got wrong rather than what they have got right. But yes they have got some things right. They are not stupid people quite...
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    Capacity in the unlikely hood of a new stadium should be ?

    But didn't Brighton's ground open with a capacity of nearly 22k expand to 27750 then further expand to 30750?. All of which are above the "proposed" scheme that has been described in the press for CCFC. Surely if we had Brighton's success we would match their crowds. But that brings with it the...
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    strangest goal ?

    Found this on the BBC site http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34873067 What was the keeper doing? 1 nil to the wind?
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    Butts Park Arena is new home

    Coventry supporter joins in discussion and raises questions about CCFC/team owners, about its present and future and is doing so on a CCFC fans forum........ go figure :facepalm: Then you understand wrongly don't you, they are neither deep nor philosophical questions, and take no time really to...
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    Butts Park Arena is new home

    Oh silly me, I should know better and just accept things spoon fed :facepalm: So because you say so I should stop asking questions or challenging carefully laid perceptions Ever consider I ask questions to try to suggest people think of it different ways and that I might not be expecting (a)...
  16. oldskyblue58

    Back to being the biggest club in Coventry?

    so if Wasps have a bigger gate than us or their average increases above ours then they become the biggest for that week or month or season? Or do we then start comparing, history, income, assets, liabilities, balance sheets, squad sizes........ blah de blah. Pointless argument really Reality...
  17. oldskyblue58

    Butts Park Arena is new home

    Yes I know Otis ...... cant see the attraction of 18stone blokes rolling around in cold mud meself though ....... actually I must because I do go to CRFC games when I can:laugh: Capacity is 4000 btw with 3000 in that one stand
  18. oldskyblue58

    The money we use to spend

    Think TM MV etc are proving what can be done with good financial control. When you look at the deals that were done and the financial effect over the decades you appreciate even more what the current manager is doing. Had we not over paid fees and salaries on a whole lot of dross then we...
  19. oldskyblue58

    durham moaning again

    Just don't listen to him ...... he and his like will soon get bored if he gets no reaction
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    Clarke To Fulham, Mowbray to Reading?

    There will come a point where he moves on ..... that's just the way of things, better offer, bigger challenge , higher division etc........ BUT ........ I don't see that happening any time soon. I think he genuinely loves the work he is doing here plus comes over quite principled so it wont be...
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