Disgraceful (6 Viewers)

[ajl]

What I don't get, is how did he know exactly when to video the lad showing this photo?? It seems more than a coincidence he was filming in the 10 seconds the lad was showing it. Maybe he should have been watching the game not filming 14 yr olds?

Or maybe, just maybe, the lad was showing them and taunting the photo of Bradley for some time before this so got his phone out to record him?

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[rob9872]

No, the issue there was the victim blaming.

One moron being racist was not a poor reflection on Sheffield Wednesday fans. Many of them saying, 'but Palmer was winding us up' was.

That's the difference.

A better way is do nothing. Donate, if you like, but doing so other than privately is just performative.

I'm going to donate but do it in your name.

 

[SkyBluePower]

This probably won’t be popular but I do find the sanctification of these ill kids a bit tasteless and undignified
Everton fans groups already advising us to have a minutes applause in the 6th minute for Bradley “who stole all of our hearts” to show we are not a heartless fanbase etc
I hope the little idiot who showed the photo gets dealt with and made an example of but it’s nothing to do with me and we shouldn’t be helping turn all this into a circus.

 

[rob9872]

 

[clint van damme]

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I know thats fake, id go 2 quid max

 

[fernandopartridge]

For the Catholic lads on here I hope you're going to confession to repent for the sins of one member of the fanbase

 

[rob9872]

I know thats fake, id go 2 quid max

I was going to donate anyway so having made the joke to @Shannerz I just followed it through to you two

 

[alexccfc99]

Maybe, but we criticised Sheff Weds for not uniting in condeming the Palmer racist fan.
We need to send a message to our fans, respect Bradley's memory and stick two fingers up to Mackams who have had many more fans behave terribly towards JH.
If anyone knows better way than a one off banner to do this then feel free to suggest. Tifo's/banners seem to be the modern way of fans sending out united clear messages on controversial topics, so worth considering by club .

My gripe with SWFC was not the Palmer incident per se, you can safely file that under one dickhead in a crowd of 20,000

It was a week later in the cup game he was pretty much boo'ed by all their fans - I thought that was awful

 

[TomRad85]

Still way too many licking Spackem boots online only to get shit for it anyway. So dramatic. The kid handed himself in and will be banned, let it go ffs. Embarrassing.

 

[SkyBluePower]

For the Catholic lads on here I hope you're going to confession to repent for the sins of one member of the fanbase

There’s a few Priests and School Chaplins who needed about a million Hail Marys for their behaviour in the good old days.

 

[TomRad85]

My gripe with SWFC was not the Palmer incident per se, you can safely file that under one dickhead in a crowd of 20,000

It was a week later in the cup game he was pretty much boo'ed by all their fans - I thought that was awful

Yes this pretty much. Would be like us playing Sunderland in the cup next week, the Lowery family come on to the pitch and we start booing them. It's way different.

 

[Greer]

For the Catholic lads on here I hope you're going to confession to repent for the sins of one member of the fanbase

I’ve said my Hail Marys

 

[fernandopartridge]

There’s a few Priests and School Chaplins who needed about a million Hail Marys for their behaviour in the good old days.

The money was just resting in his account

 

[SkyBluePower]

The money was just resting in his account

Like fat Alan at the moment in the Archers.

 

[Para1140]

Cant wait for all the guilt ridden Mackems to donate to the alzymers charity for mocking the death of Jimmy Hill. Im sure it will make them feel better on behalf of all the idiots that have chanted Jimmy in a box over the last few years

 

[robbiethemole]

Cant wait for all the guilt ridden Mackems to donate to the alzymers charity for mocking the death of Jimmy Hill. Im sure it will make them feel better on behalf of all the idiots that have chanted Jimmy in a box over the last few years

Maybe don't hold your breath waiting??

 

[Para1140]

Did he do it in his own, or did his family make him?

Does it matter. Hes 15 for ffs did you ever do something you regret at that age ?

 

[alexccfc99]

Cant wait for all the guilt ridden Mackems to donate to the alzymers charity for mocking the death of Jimmy Hill. Im sure it will make them feel better on behalf of all the idiots that have chanted Jimmy in a box over the last few years

Or to a men’s mental health charity for all their chants about Gary Speed in the past

 

[David O'Day]

For the Catholic lads on here I hope you're going to confession to repent for the sins of one member of the fanbase

no but i'll light a candle

 

[Ccfcsj]

Does it matter. Hes 15 for ffs did you ever do something you regret at that age ?

I love the way people jump to the wrong conclusion and reply quite aggressively - go and have a drink and relax a bit .

All I was getting at is did he realise he'd done wrong and admitted it or did he not care and was frogmarched to the Police Station by his (I assume) furious parents. If the former then good on him and the punishment should be lesser than if it's the latter.

It always amazes me that a simple, honest comment, can be turned into something nasty by some people.

BTW - yes I did some stupid things but thankfully in the mid 80's there wasn't social media etc so nobody saw

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

So we have a mindless wana be gagsta.
He probably does wheelies in the middle of the road,just to annoy motorists.
He has probably never had a hand raised to him in his life, and enjoys being abusive to adults and saying you can’t touch me or I will tell me mum and get you arrested.
Most on here would just call him a little head.
He is probably sitting at home crapping himself, after realising for the first time in his life he is not walking away from this.
We are all rightly annoyed but ffs he hasn’t murdered anyone.
The police will deal with him,the club will probably give him a long ban,and if his parents have any sense they will make his life a misery for a good while.
And on a good note,it might just make some of our moron supporters think twice in the future ( but I very much doubt that).

 

[Torquay Sky Blue]

I love the way people jump to the wrong conclusion and reply quite aggressively - go and have a drink and relax a bit .

All I was getting at is did he realise he'd done wrong and admitted it or did he not care and was frogmarched to the Police Station by his (I assume) furious parents. If the former then good on him and the punishment should be lesser than if it's the latter.

It always amazes me that a simple, honest comment, can be turned into something nasty by some people.

BTW - yes I did some stupid things but thankfully in the mid 80's there wasn't social media etc so nobody saw

It was acceptable in the 80's

One for the teenagers

 

[Shannerz]

He has probably never had a hand raised to him in his life

Yeah, let's not say that as if it's bad thing.

You don't make well adjusted people by twatting them.

 

[sc1940]

Yep agree with this mate. But I sang ding dong the witch is dead when Thatcher died so not gonna judge!

Not surprised to be honest

 

[Gleneagles65]

The lad is 14 and has completely fucked up when trying to be funny. A ban is the obvious penalty and some education. I hope common sense prevails.

 

[Adge]

There’s a few Priests and School Chaplins who needed about a million Hail Marys for their behaviour in the good old days.

Aye-and the chief who knew all about it but decided to sweep it all under the carpet.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Did he do it in his own, or did his family make him?

Ultimately at 14 it doesn't make any difference. At that age I doubt hardly anyone would know how best to react when this blew up.

Even if he did do it under advice of his parents, I still see that as a positive because it shows the parents are making him own up to his error and accept the consequences. There are far too many parents these days who would excuse their 'little angels' of everything, it always being someone else's fault and trying to make out that in fact their child is the victim in all this.

 

[Tommo1993]

He’s being dealt with, and the important parties have had their say.

Now it’s just boring.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

It was acceptable in the 80's

 

[Ccfcsj]

Ultimately at 14 it doesn't make any difference. At that age I doubt hardly anyone would know how best to react when this blew up.

Even if he did do it under advice of his parents, I still see that as a positive because it shows the parents are making him own up to his error and accept the consequences. There are far too many parents these days who would excuse their 'little angels' of everything, it always being someone else's fault and trying to make out that in fact their child is the victim in all this.

I do agree believe it or not. My original statement was more of curiosity.

None of us know what happened beyond what was shown and written. I still think it does have a bearing on the punishment though.

If he came forward willingly and has shown real remorse then maybe a police caution will suffice. If his parents dragged him to the police station show they are capable of disciplining him properly maybe that's the right action. If on the other hand he's done something similar before or shows no remorse then a stronger course of action might be necessary.

 

[skybluecam]

A 14-year-old boy has been arrested on suspicion of a public order offence and subsequently bailed

Christ. How OTT.

 

[theskyisthelimit]

Christ. How OTT.

If he has handed himself in, then obviously he would be arrested, it is formality as he is the suspect in a public order crime.

I'm sure the bailing will be so they can either refer him to the Youth Offending Service (YOS) or to follow up on some other enquiries.

It will all be a formality

 

[Para1140]

If he has handed himself in, then obviously he would be arrested, it is formality as he is the suspect in a public order crime.

I'm sure the bailing will be so they can either refer him to the Youth Offending Service (YOS) or to follow up on some other enquiries.

It will all be a formality

The only reason to arrest him is to seize his phone, search his house or impose bail conditions following his interview. They may not have had to do any of this if he was admitting to what he did or handed his phone over when sttending the station. As long as he has no other cautions or convictions he will be referred to yos for consideration of a caution and working with youth offending services

 

[bigfatronssba]

Not really sure how it can be a policing matter when at least 20k other people in the stadium regularly appear to commit public order offences and the police do nothing

 

[theskyisthelimit]

The only reason to arrest him is to seize his phone, search his house or impose bail conditions following his interview. They may not have had to do any of this if he was admitting to what he did or handed his phone over when sttending the station. As long as he has no other cautions or convictions he will be referred to yos for consideration of a caution and working with youth offending services

You either arrest someone in order to interview them if they're a suspect (which he is) as it is part of the interviewing process, or you ask him to attend on a voluntary basis.
I would assume because of his age, he was arrested, taken through to the custody block and immediately bailed to return for an interview at a later date as there is not much necessity to take away his liberty, but there is a need to process him formality and impose the restriction of him probably being banned from football events (as part of his bail) and to return to the station on the agreed date.
Or they could have interviewed him there and then if they had the capacity to do so.

Why would they need to search his home? He hasn't been arrested for an offence in which there is outstanding items and seizing his phone would not prove anything other than his search history including Bradley. However this can be proven without the need to seize a phone as there is video and photographic proof already