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While that's true, lets apply a little bit of critical thinking here.

Irrespective of what Burnham's said it's a bad look. The Gulf state is the UK’s biggest trading partner in the Middle East, the GCC also invests billions into the country and there's a free trade agreement which is the process of being legally finalised.

We can't naively pretend that he won't want a very lenient punishment issued to Man City when clearly there's a lot of vested interest in ensuring he keeps the relationship with the Gulf states as positive as possible. His stance goes way beyond what Sheikh Mansour has done for Manchester IMO.

Man City fans saying when the PM says you are innocent the PL will do as they are told.

He really should have never made any comment at all
 
Why the f”ck do politicians keep trying to get involved with things that aren’t their job?

Concentrate on sorting the country out you scouse twat

Hes PM of the country, hes bound to be asked about it, its naive to think he, or whoevers in charge at the time of events like this wont be.
If you dont like what he had to say then fair enough.
 
Hes PM of the country, hes bound to be asked about it, its naive to think he, or whoevers in charge at the time of events like this wont be.
If you dont like what he had to say then fair enough.

Surely the responsible/sensible thing to say is “this isn’t something for the govt to get involved in, it’s for the football authorities to rule on”?
 
Surely the responsible/sensible thing to say is “this isn’t something for the govt to get involved in, it’s for the football authorities to rule on”?

Like I say, if you think he should have answered differently then fair enough, but hes going to be asked, and no doubt he'll be asked again before it's all over, but its not like hes gone out of his way to comment on it.
 
Like I say, if you think he should have answered differently then fair enough, but hes going to be asked, and no doubt he'll be asked again before it's all over, but its not like hes gone out of his way to comment on it.


He should know what not to answer.
 
Hes PM of the country, hes bound to be asked about it, its naive to think he, or whoevers in charge at the time of events like this wont be.
If you dont like what he had to say then fair enough.

He could quite easily say something like: "it's a sporting matter, not a political one, and as such in the best interests of safeguarding the integrity of the sport I'm sure the PL will capably come to a suitable decision regarding punishment in due course."

It's a very strange thing to say that he'd be really concerned if the owners sell up, especially during a time when there's a huge amount of scrutiny around the level of influence the UAE, and other GCC states, now have in the UK.
 
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especially during a time when there's a huge amount of scrutiny around the level of influence the UAE now has in the UK.

What scrutiny?
Them, and more so the Saudis, have been far too influential in this country for years.

Its only when they take over a football club that there appears to be a bit of noise, but I wouldn't call it scrutiny.
 
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He could quite easily say something like: "it's a sporting matter, not a political one, and as such in the best interests of safeguarding the integrity of the sport I'm sure the PL will capably come to a suitable decision regarding punishment in due course."

It's a very strange thing to say that he'd be really concerned if the owners sell up, especially during a time when there's a huge amount of scrutiny around the level of influence the UAE, and other GCC states, now have in the UK.
Surely there’d be loads who’d buy
 
It's a case of people who are so insanely wealthy that they have never had to deal with consequences in their lives finally coming up against them.

They have no idea that there is a rule of law and it applies to everybody and are therefore just crying that someone is out to get them.
There are many tiers of justice, it just depends on your wealth and influence.
 
He could quite easily say something like: "it's a sporting matter, not a political one, and as such in the best interests of safeguarding the integrity of the sport I'm sure the PL will capably come to a suitable decision regarding punishment in due course."

It's a very strange thing to say that he'd be really concerned if the owners sell up, especially during a time when there's a huge amount of scrutiny around the level of influence the UAE, and other GCC states, now have in the UK.
He is highlighting his "Man of the North" credentials. I suppose it makes a change from London centric PMs.
 
What scrutiny?
Them, and more so the Saudis, have been far too influential in this country for years.

Its only when they take over a football club that there appears to be a bit of noise, butI wouldn't call it scrutiny.

Oh come on GCC influence in the UK has grown massively over the past 10 years. That's an objective fact. And in regards to examples of scrutiny, there's been plenty.

The UAE's alleged role in Sudan has been repeatedly raised in Parliament, including questions over alleged support for the RSF and whether UK arms exports to the UAE could ultimately be diverted to the conflict.

Gulf states have provided nearly £2 million in declared gifts to British MPs over the last decade.

UAE-linked attempt to acquire the Telegraph, which triggered Government intervention and scrutiny by the CMA and Ofcom.

Their general human rights and environmental track record which seemingly the UK turn a blind eye to.

Very bizarre take frankly. Perhaps do some research before you make completely uninformed comments.
 
As if the prem haven't got enough to deal with without a politician sticking his nose in. Anytime anyone of these con artist have an opinion, BS and corruption follow.

He should of said i font know, not my remit i have other more pressing matters. Yet its something he will answer without a pivot or waffle, that makes me wonder why, because most of the time they say oh i cant talk about an ongoing case...

If i was the prem id be digging my heels in even more.
 
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Oh come on GCC influence in the UK has grown massively over the past 10 years. That's an objective fact. And in regards to examples of scrutiny, there's been plenty.

The UAE's alleged role in Sudan has been repeatedly raised in Parliament, including questions over alleged support for the RSF and whether UK arms exports to the UAE could ultimately be diverted to the conflict.

Gulf states have provided nearly £2 million in declared gifts to British MPs over the last decade.

UAE-linked attempt to acquire the Telegraph, which triggered Government intervention and scrutiny by the CMA and Ofcom.

Their general human rights and environmental track record which seemingly the UK turn a blind eye to.

Very bizarre take frankly. Perhaps do some research before you make completely uninformed comments.

The questions raised in parliament about the RSF have got nowhere, they're given nothing more than lip service.

Blair killed an enquiry into the BAE scandal and the Jamal Khasoggi murder was swept under the carpet, the Newcastle takeover got more scrutiny, that's just a few examples of the top of my head.

I no longer post on off topic but I banged on about this for ages in there. If you want to go on and look Im sure everything I posted was verifiable, so quite happy that my 'research' is sound!

And the strange thing is, your first sentence agrees with what Ive been saying, its only the level of scrutiny youre disagreeing with
 
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Let's face it. If it was Farage making the comments, significant or as insignificant as they may turn out to be, there would be outrage from the same people protecting Burnham. It's just political preference. Frankly, it's a government which is somehow trying to compete with the Conservatives for the worst one in history. I don't know how any of you can get so territorial about any of them.
 
Let's face it. If it was Farage making the comments, significant or as insignificant as they may turn out to be, there would be outrage from the same people protecting Burnham. It's just political preference. Frankly, it's a government which is somehow trying to compete with the Conservatives for the worst one in history. I don't know how any of you can get so territorial about any of them.

If Farage was PM he'd be asked about, which is my point, whoevers in charge would be
 
If Farage was PM he'd be asked about, which is my point, whoevers in charge would be

My point was more that people can't analyse what he's said properly because of their political allegiance. It goes both ways, but as someone who hates them all with fairly equal measure, there's definitely something not quite right about it on the surface.
 
Surely everyone is concerned … can’t see what’s the issue there … huge premier league club cheating to win for a decade, the financial recompense and costs, the reputationsl costs to the prem and the country as a massively successful English product… I’d be a very surprised if a PM wasn’t concerned …
 
Let's face it. If it was Farage making the comments, significant or as insignificant as they may turn out to be, there would be outrage from the same people protecting Burnham. It's just political preference. Frankly, it's a government which is somehow trying to compete with the Conservatives for the worst one in history. I don't know how any of you can get so territorial about any of them.

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The questions raised in parliament about the RSF have got nowhere, they're given nothing more than lip service.

Blair killed an enquiry into the BAE scandal and the Jamal Khasoggi murder was swept under the carpet, the Newcastle takeover got more scrutiny, that's just a few examples of the top of my head.

I no longer post on off topic but I banged on about this for ages in there. If you want to go on and look Im sure everything I posted was verifiable, so quite happy that my 'research' is sound!

And the strange thing is, your first sentence agrees with what Ive been saying, its only the level of scrutiny youre disagreeing with

I agree the government has, and continues to, pay lip service when they're pressed on matters such as those listed above. That's really the point.

You can't say their influence has always been significant when it's quite clearly grown in recent years, and you can see that across everything from political donations, property and real estate, banking and, obviously, sport. We're also far more reliant on them for oil than we once were since we imposed a ban on the import of Russian oil in 2022 and the general decline of North Sea drilling.

The UK has a long track record in sweeping things under the rug to keep the GCC states sweet, and I'm sure we're not privy to most of them. I can only see that increasing as we become more reliant on them.
 
I note that as soon as the punishment was announced their odds to be relegated 3-1. I see the odds now are 13-8 and shortening. I think those putting their money down have made their mind up.Still Man.City think their untouchable.
 
My point was more that people can't analyse what he's said properly because of their political allegiance. It goes both ways, but as someone who hates them all with fairly equal measure, there's definitely something not quite right about it on the surface.
'People'.

I'm a labour voter and I thought his comments were piss poor.
 
Yep the only appropriate answer is it’s a matter for the premier league I’ve got my hands full

Correct, anyway Andy Pandy, apparently that's his nickname, he's a scouser isn't he and an Everton fan.

He's no longer the Mayor of Manchester so keep your flipping nose out of it.
 
I agree the government has, and continues to, pay lip service when they're pressed on matters such as those listed above. That's really the point.

You can't say their influence has always been significant when it's quite clearly grown in recent years, and you can see that across everything from political donations, property and real estate, banking and, obviously, sport. We're also far more reliant on them for oil than we once were since we imposed a ban on the import of Russian oil in 2022 and the general decline of North Sea drilling.

The UK has a long track record in sweeping things under the rug to keep the GCC states sweet, and I'm sure we're not privy to most of them. I can only see that increasing as we become more reliant on them.

If youre talking about about how long GCC states have been influential then I think you have to go on a case by case basis, the Saudis have been influential for a long time but you have a point regarding the UAE, that has been more recent and clearly on the increase.

I dont think many would disagree state ownership of football clubs is not a good thing.
 

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