Statement signings if we go up? (30 Viewers)

[Pusb1]

We need players in it for the longhaul or with resale value. IF we go down, we need a stronger squad than we have now. Might need to Yoyo a few times to stick in the Prem.

Sell some of our lower ability players now and reinvest. Eventually we'll stick

 

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[CovRes]

Deadly Doug can try and squeeze someone close to the amount we paid for him i'm sure. He has a knack for it.

Don't the German club have an option on him? That usually, although not always, means that a fee has been agreed.

 

[skybluecam]

Don't the German club have an option on him? That usually, although not always, means that a fee has been agreed.

How would you have an option without an agreed fee?

 

[Martw]

Can see the following leaving. Think we get good money for Torp and Simms, can see Wolves being interested in Kitch.

Bidwell
Brau
Woolf or Kitch
Lati
Torp
Allen
Andrews
BTA
Simms
Rapha
Bassette

Id be keeping Andrews for certain, young and would make a fair bit of money from the academy. for me he needs to go to League 1 or lower champ next season on a loan. maybe somebody like Posh?

 

[Manchester_sky_blue]

Andrews will definitely stay. We need homegrown players in the squad, he coats little and still has potential.

 

[CovRes]

How would you have an option without an agreed fee?

It's basically first refusal.

 

[baldy]

Chris McCann wasnt it left in January?

Or was it Andy Rose? Played for Seattle Sounders too

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Or was it Andy Rose? Played for Seattle Sounders too

I remember Rose being shite and McCann and Sordell being the shining lights for a shite team

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

In terms of outgoings I can see
Collins (Released)
Woolfenden (1m-4m)
Latibeaudiere (1m-4m)
Bidwell (nominal fee)
Brau (loan)
Torp (7m-12m)
Andrews (loan)
Esse (Return to Palace)
Min-Hyeok (Return to Spurs)
Thomas-Asante (7m-12m)
Raphael (nominal fee)
Bassette (1m-2m)

Maybe:
Simms (10m-13m)
Rushworth (Return to Brighton)

 

[wingy]

I was getting confused with surnames thought it was the one who was sold or poached by Stoke and off our wage bill!🫣

 

[Balli001]

Won't be signing Michael Keane amyway he just signed a contract extension

 

[Sky Blue Wozza]

In terms of outgoings I can see
Collins (Released)
Woolfenden (1m-4m)
Latibeaudiere (1m-4m)
Bidwell (nominal fee)
Brau (loan)
Torp (7m-12m)
Andrews (loan)
Esse (Return to Palace)
Min-Hyeok (Return to Spurs)
Thomas-Asante (7m-12m)
Raphael (nominal fee)
Bassette (1m-2m)

Maybe:
Simms (10m-13m)
Rushworth (Return to Brighton)

I agree with most of that, but I’d be surprised if we get north of 7m for Torp and BTA. And Simms more likely £5m, in my opinion.

 

[Batu1969]

I hope Doug doesn’t spend more than £35m on transfers, unless extra comes from player sales.

 

[SleepyGinger]

I hope Doug doesn’t spend more than £35m on transfers, unless extra comes from player sales.

Why?

 

[Paxman II]

I hope Doug doesn’t spend more than £35m on transfers, unless extra comes from player sales.

Again you live in a fantasy world. We will need to spend way beyond that or we will indeed fail to stay up. We are lucky we don't have to spend over 200m as we have a very capable squad now, but it needs strengthening.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Again you live in a fantasy world. We will need to spend way beyond that or we will indeed fail to stay up. We are lucky we don't have to spend over 200m as we have a very capable squad now, but it needs strengthening.

You’re right on the first part - but this squad as good a championship side it is, needs a lot of work to bring it to prem standard

 

[shmmeee]

I hope Doug doesn’t spend more than £35m on transfers, unless extra comes from player sales.

That’s a guaranteed relegation costing us tens of millions, why would you hope that?

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

I agree with most of that, but I’d be surprised if we get north of 7m for Torp and BTA. And Simms more likely £5m, in my opinion.

I dont think we’d take a loss on Simms

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I dont think we’d take a loss on Simms

We arent gonna get £13m for him

 

[lowblocklounge]

Andrews will definitely stay. We need homegrown players in the squad, he coats little and still has potential.

Most of our squad is homegrown. I believe the rule is trained in England/Wales for 3 seasons before turning 21. It’s only club trained for UEFA competitions

 

[shmmeee]

Most of our squad is homegrown. I believe the rule is trained in England/Wales for 3 seasons before turning 21. It’s only club trained for UEFA competitions

Who isn’t then?

Milan, Onyeka, Saka, Wright, Dovin, Bassette, Raphael . Anyone else?

 

[lowblocklounge]

Who isn’t then?

Milan, Onyeka, Saka, Wright, Dovin, Bassette, Raphael . Anyone else?

Torp as well but I think that’s the only other missing.

 

[wingy]

Most of our squad is homegrown. I believe the rule is trained in England/Wales for 3 seasons before turning 21. It’s only club trained for UEFA competitions

Scotland, Ireland, Northern Ireland?

 

[CovRes]

Scotland, Ireland, Northern Ireland?

No. Only clubs that are members of the English or Welsh leagues.

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

We arent gonna get £13m for him

Would we get £10m, that was the upper bound estimation as we arent going to take a loss on a Championship striker with his record surely

 

[Greer]

Who would you take from Leicester?

Some of the bar staff, so I’m not waiting 15 mins for a pint at half time.

 

[CovRes]

I think there is a bit of a loophole to the homegrown rule. If you sign a non-homegrown U21, they are just that, an U21. The definition is simply based on date of birth. It's currently anyone born on or after 01/01/2004. For next season it will be 01/01/2005.

So you could buy the best U21s that Belgium, Portugal, etc have to offer they can play as many games as they merit without falling foul of the rule.

If you time it right and sign them at 18, they'll be homegrown by the time they're 22 and a senior player.

 

[shmmeee]

So realistically we’ve got 6 non homegrown (Bassette and Raphael unlikely to be here) and can have 17 in the 25 man squad. I can’t see us signing more than 11 players in the summer so don’t think it’s a worry tbh.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Whoever we sign we don't want a journeyman Upsetting the team spirit.

 

[SkyBlueSam01]

Offload:
Wright - 15m
Bidwell - 500k
Allen - Free
Woolf - 2-3m
Brau - Champ Loan
Collins - Free
Rafael - 500k
Bassette - 2m

 

[Batu1969]

Why?

Well, I’ve read that we’d get around £120m for going up in tv rights. I have no idea what we’ll get in sponsorship or player sales, but we’re near capacity on ticket sales already and still in negative operating costs.

The club is in debt to the tune of (£50m) for which interest burdens come due next year. Operating loss 24/25 was (£21.5m), I expect higher this season.
Expected increase in operating costs moving to the Premiership for 26/27 is (£40m). Refurbishment for broadcast requirements is (£8m) according to BBC / Sky Sports.

Budget for new players: £35m + player sales AND a debt free club (for a short while) or…?

I get that this sounds negative and not spending to stay up. So all I ask when you fry this post, say what you will BUT communicate how much you would budget for new players AND how much debt you’d let the club carry forward into 2027.

 

[shmmeee]

Well, I’ve read that we’d get around £120m for going up in tv rights. I have no idea what we’ll get in sponsorship or player sales, but we’re near capacity on ticket sales already and still in negative operating costs.

The club is in debt to the tune of (£50m) for which interest burdens come due next year. Operating loss 24/25 was (£21.5m), I expect higher this season.
Expected increase in operating costs moving to the Premiership for 26/27 is (£40m). Refurbishment for broadcast requirements is (£8m) according to BBC / Sky Sports.

£35m + player sales and a debt free club or…?

I get that this sounds negative and not spending to stay up. So all I ask when you fry this post, say what you will BUT communicate how much you would budget for new players AND how much debt you’d let the club carry forward into 2027.

Luton level spending gets you Luton outcomes.

 

[Batu1969]

Luton level spending gets you Luton outcomes.

So what would you budget and what debt would you allow at the end of next season?

 

[stupot07]

Milner the guy is 40.

 

[Cally Fedora]

Luton level spending gets you Luton outcomes.

And Spurs level spending can get you Luton outcomes.