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[shmmeee]

And we have the right to refuse

No we don’t man. We signed this convention

Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

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[shmmeee]

Our economy is shite

Then why all the economic migrants?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

No we don’t man. We signed this convention

Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Agreed to by that well known woke nonsense merchant Churchill

 

[bigfatronssba]

Maybe we could work much harder on the causes so the 'symptom' disappears anyway.

Looking impossible now.

This country started making terrible decisions after WW1, and we’re now paying the price.

Such a terrible war knocked too many peoples faith in western civilisation

 

[shmmeee]

Looking impossible now.

This country started making terrible decisions after WW1, and we’re now paying the price.

Such a terrible war knocked too many peoples faith in western civilisation

yeah faith so knocked they keep wanting to come here.

Seriously man lay off the Matt Goodwin tweets FFS.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Yes we do, but it needs to be done by the book and you can't refuse someone's claim based on how they entered the country.

It can be refused on whatever reason we decide.

It’s up to us who we let into our home

 

[Nick]

No the logic is if you vote for a fascist far right party you’re far right and a fascist. These are defined words with meanings. You keep pulling it back to “racist” which is an opinion on what someone who wants to deport all brown people because one killed some kids are.

And yes Rupert Lowe supports deportation of legal UK citizens based on ethnicity.

I mentioned racism because of it being in the post I originally quoted.

If voting for somebody who has said racist stuff means you're racist then voting for somebody who supports sex offenders means....

Also, how does it work for people who aren't white who voted for reform if they are all racist?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Looking impossible now.

This country started making terrible decisions after WW1, and we’re now paying the price.

Such a terrible war knocked too many peoples faith in western civilisation

Do we need to go back and conquer a third of the globe to put it right?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It can be refused on whatever reason we decide.

It’s up to us who we let into our home

Wrong. When it comes to refugees, we signed up to international laws that decide their rights and how claims should be processed.

 

[shmmeee]

It can be refused on whatever reason we decide.

It’s up to us who we let into our home

And how will we know who we can and can’t let in?

 

[bigfatronssba]

No we don’t man. We signed this convention

Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

That became defunct in 2019.

The Supreme Court ruled that Parliament is the absolute authority within the United Kingdom.

Gina Miller was trying to stop Brexit, but inadvertently destroyed international law authority in the country

 

[mmttww]

If somebody votes for somebody who supports sex offenders then using your logic, they are a sex offender themselves right?

in your imaginary scenario, no. If someone votes for an imaginary party that endorses sex crimes then they're endorsing sex crimes.

I've said voting for people with a track record of racist positions and actions is a bit of a tell that you're racist in your attitudes to stuff.

if I'd said someone voting for that party means they've probably taken part in racist violence, you might have a point, but I didn't.

 

[shmmeee]

I mentioned racism because of it being in the post I originally quoted.

If voting for somebody who has said racist stuff means you're racist then voting for somebody who supports sex offenders means....

Also, how does it work for people who aren't white who voted for reform if they are all racist?

Im not saying that. Take it up with someone who is. I think the people supporting Reform are racists. I don’t think all Reform supporters are racist. I do think they’re far right and fascist.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Wrong. When it comes to refugees, we signed up to international laws that decide their rights and how claims should be processed.

A simple act of parliament can override that

 

[shmmeee]

That became defunct in 2019.

The Supreme Court ruled that Parliament is the absolute authority within the United Kingdom.

Gina Miller was trying to stop Brexit, but inadvertently destroyed international law authority in the country

Please for gods sake read something that isn’t a Tweet.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Please for gods sake read something that isn’t a Tweet.

It was the court ruling mate. Read out by that spider woman

 

[Nick]

in your imaginary scenario, no. If someone votes for an imaginary party that endorses sex crimes then they're endorsing sex crimes.

I've said voting for people with a track record of racist positions and actions is a bit of a tell that you're racist in your attitudes to stuff.

if I'd said someone voting for that party means they've probably taken part in racist violence, you might have a point, but I didn't.

Voting for people with a track record of supporting sex offenders kind of tells you that you support sex offenders in your attitude to stuff , no?

 

[shmmeee]

A simple act of parliament can override that

Do you understand how international law and geopolitics in general works? Every country is dealing with the same stuff do you really think Brexit 2 is the answer to piss off even more allies and get even less cooperation?

 

[shmmeee]

It was the court ruling mate. Read out by that spider woman

Jesus Christ.

 

[bigfatronssba]

And how will we know who we can and can’t let in?

Well if someone had broken the law, we don’t let them in

 

[shmmeee]

Voting for people with a track record of supporting sex offenders kind of tells you that you support sex offenders in your attitude to stuff , no?

This should be fun. Who do you think has a record of supporting sex offenders and which party by this definition is clean in your opinion?

 

[Nick]

Im not saying that. Take it up with someone who is. I think the people supporting Reform are racists. I don’t think all Reform supporters are racist. I do think they’re far right and fascist.

I did, you jumped in.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Do you understand how international law and geopolitics in general works? Every country is dealing with the same stuff do you really think Brexit 2 is the answer to piss off even more allies and get even less cooperation?

Parliament is supreme.
International law exists only with parliaments consent

Cooperation? We pay the French millions to send their migrants here

 

[shmmeee]

Well if someone had broken the law, we don’t let them in

how will we know? They don’t turn up on the boats in black and white stripes with a swag bag.

We need to vet them. But where do you put them while you vet them? And what if you aren’t vetting them quickly enough?

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Co

A simple act of parliament can override that

Correct - but we’re not about to derail whatever we have left on the world stage by sticking 2 fingers up to a convention that most of if not all of western civilisation is signed up to.

 

[shmmeee]

Parliament is supreme.
International law exists only with parliaments consent

Cooperation? We pay the French millions to send their migrants here

The politics of a child. I can literally tell you heard of most of this stuff for the first time in about 2017.

 

[Nick]

This should be fun. Who do you think has a record of supporting sex offenders and which party by this definition is clean in your opinion?

There must be a few hundred in Coventry who support sex offending by proxy.

I don't think any party is clean of anything, using the logic if you voted Conservative you fuck pigs and if it was Labour it's rent boys.

 

[shmmeee]

Anyway anyone from the Brexit side going to address why we should listen to you after the massive fuck up on immigration that was Brexit?

 

[bigfatronssba]

Im not saying that. Take it up with someone who is. I think the people supporting Reform are racists. I don’t think all Reform supporters are racist. I do think they’re far right and fascist.

Can you remember a single person on this forum not appalled by the monkey chants at Palmer?

 

[mmttww]

Voting for people with a track record of supporting sex offenders kind of tells you that you support sex offenders in your attitude to stuff , no?

If you can show me a party that has a track record of endorsing sex offenders, then we've got something to talk about. Otherwise this is pointless.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

A simple act of parliament can override that

At least you are consistent in thinking that Churchill was wrong

 

[shmmeee]

There must be a few hundred in Coventry who support sex offending by proxy.

I don't think any party is clean of anything, using the logic if you voted Conservative you fuck pigs and if it was Labour it's rent boys.

No by my logic if you voted Tory you’re some flavour of right wing or centrist and if you voted Labour you’re some flavour of left wing or centrist. As that’s what those parties are.

Can you just answer the question? You’re clearly desperate to make a point so our with it.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Yes, but why has it come to that? Why are there protests outside hotels?

There's a bit of a reddit style mob on this thread, where people are getting more confident with saying empty platitudes because they're getting a lot of likes, but there is a lot of outrage with very little logic attached to it.

The reality is that Reform are flying in the polls, and many people will end up voting that way because there is little way of such civil discourse, as you mention, ever taking place. How many people on this thread have called Reform voters racist? I don't see, for example, many people on this thread debating in adult mode.

I understand it might not be everyone's politics, but whilst getting shouty on a thread and calling people names might make some feel good, we have the potential to see Reform winning a general election, or at least getting a lot of seats, and this makes it worse. it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone if it happens at this point. These people aren't all racist or far-right, many are normal people that walk between us that don't feel listened to by politicians or the people mentioned above.

You make some good points, but suggesting that our football club aligns with one of the most far-right parliamentarians around (i won't call Lowe a politician as he has never shown any aptitude whenever he has been elected) is what people on here are objecting to.

 

[bigfatronssba]

There must be a few hundred in Coventry who support sex offending by proxy.

I don't think any party is clean of anything, using the logic if you voted Conservative you fuck pigs and if it was Labour it's rent boys.

The Starmer rent boy story went quite quickly.
Reckon there’s an injunction somewhere

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

If you can show me a party that has a track record of endorsing sex offenders, then we've got something to talk about. Otherwise this is pointless.

2bh Farage endorses Trump