Embarrassing (8 Viewers)

[bigfatronssba]

Well the French should be trying much harder to stop them leaving in the first place.

The French are laughing their tits off at us. We’re paying them to relieve their own immigration problems

 

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[shmmeee]

Well if you’re asking me to formulate a policy, I’d say there would be three options.

1) They can voluntarily go back to their home country
2) Forcibly removed back to their home country if possible
3) Sent to somewhere like West Falkland or St Helena where their basic needs will be met

Well 1 obviously isn’t happening. 2 only happens if you’ve got a ln agreement with their home country. 3 is basically what we’re doing except places we don’t have to build entire infrastructure to feed and house thousands and it’s causing riots.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well if you’re asking me to formulate a policy, I’d say there would be three options.

1) They can voluntarily go back to their home country
2) Forcibly removed back to their home country if possible
3) Sent to somewhere like West Falkland or St Helena where their basic needs will be met

Treating asylum seekers like Napoleon seems a bit out of left field

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Well if you’re asking me to formulate a policy, I’d say there would be three options.

1) They can voluntarily go back to their home country
2) Forcibly removed back to their home country if possible
3) Sent to somewhere like West Falkland or St Helena where their basic needs will be met

Option 3: - sounds like a concentration camp that….

 

[shmmeee]

The French are laughing their tits off at us. We’re paying them to relieve their own immigration problems

No country’s immigration problems are caused by a few thousand asylum seekers.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Could we perhaps bring back national service to allow the common man the opportunity to prevent them arriving?

Perhaps have them fighting on the beaches preventing them invading

I do wonder how we could stop a Russian invasion if we can’t even stop a few dingys

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The French are laughing their tits off at us. We’re paying them to relieve their own immigration problems

If only we hadn't given a big middle finger to the EU while declaring that we could take control of our own borders

 

[shmmeee]

I do wonder how we could stop a Russian invasion if we can’t even stop a few dingys

Quite easily looking at the mess they made of the Ukrainian one.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I do wonder how we could stop a Russian invasion if we can’t even stop a few dingys

We could legally shoot back at a Russian invasion…

 

[bigfatronssba]

Option 3: - sounds like a concentration camp that….

Yes. Concentration camps were well known for providing safety, plenty of food, and a comfortable place to sleep.
They can choose to return home if they don’t like it

 

[shmmeee]

If only we hadn't given a big middle finger to the EU while declaring that we could take control of our own borders

No no it’s pure coincidence this entire problem only started once we did Brexit. Just chance we had decades without it then suddenly thousands at once once we left. Just bloody unlucky us.

 

[Nick]

I could guess, but I talked about something factual i.e. Reform leaders have said openly racist and anti-Semitic things in the past.

Inferring people endorse sex offenders because they ask questions about attitudes to asylum seekers isn't the same thing.

No, I am being factual too.

If somebody votes for somebody who supports sex offenders then using your logic, they are a sex offender themselves right?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes. Concentration camps were well known for providing safety, plenty of food, and a comfortable place to sleep.

OK whose burner account is this?

 

[bigfatronssba]

Well 1 obviously isn’t happening. 2 only happens if you’ve got a ln agreement with their home country. 3 is basically what we’re doing except places we don’t have to build entire infrastructure to feed and house thousands and it’s causing riots.

Here’s the thing, you think people are annoyed because of the costs

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Yes. Concentration camps were well known for providing safety, plenty of food, and a comfortable place to sleep.
They can choose to return home if they don’t like it

And you can’t see why reform are seen as fascist? Do you just want to stick an armband on all immigrants with a massive “I” on it and whilst we’re at it add it to all Turkish barbers?

 

[shmmeee]

No, I am being factual too.

If somebody votes for somebody who supports sex offenders then using your logic, they are a sex offender themselves right?

I mean if they vote for The Sex Offenders Party who’s main and pretty much only policy is “stop prosecuting sex offenders” yeah it’s a fair shout.

 

[bigfatronssba]

No no it’s pure coincidence this entire problem only started once we did Brexit. Just chance we had decades without it then suddenly thousands at once once we left. Just bloody unlucky us.

Using the same logic, Brexit solved the problem of them coming in the backs of trucks.

 

[shmmeee]

Here’s the thing, you think people are annoyed because of the costs

No I think they’re annoyed full stop and will grasp to any half baked rationale they can find. I also think people like you think everyone thinks like you do when we have the data to know what “people” think and mostly they’re either confused or slightly annoyed but not enough to have to say pay more taxes to stop it.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I do wonder how we could stop a Russian invasion if we can’t even stop a few dingys

We must have stock of old muskets and things we can train people up on to prevent people arriving.

A bit like how the general public are hunting pedophiles themselves and tkaing the law into their own hands.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Using the same logic, Brexit solved the problem of them coming in the backs of trucks.

The real crime of course being the act of human trafficking.

 

[shmmeee]

Using the same logic, Brexit solved the problem of them coming in the backs of trucks.

Well we didn’t have riots about that so I guess that wasn’t an issue? You tell me man you’re the one claiming it’s tinderbox Britain and any minute now the V for Vendetta masks come out.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

We must have stock of old muskets and things we can train people up on to prevent people arriving.

A bit like how the general public are hunting pedophiles themselves and tkaing the law into their own hands.

If it isn't Chris Hansen doing it then it doesn't count

 

[Nick]

I mean if they vote for The Sex Offenders Party who’s main and pretty much only policy is “stop prosecuting sex offenders” yeah it’s a fair shout.

I thought the logic was if you voted for somebody who had said or done something then you are the same so that people can just cry "racist" about anybody who voted reform?

Gets a bit murky when you dive into that logic doesn't it?

 

[bigfatronssba]

And you can’t see why reform are seen as fascist? Do you just want to stick an armband on all immigrants with a massive “I” on it and whilst we’re at it add it to all Turkish barbers?

If a Turkish barber has broken the law, like the boat people have, then yes include them in it.

You seem to think we have an obligation to the boat people. They aren’t our problem

 

[shmmeee]

Using the same logic, Brexit solved the problem of them coming in the backs of trucks.

Also look at the graph man. Thats all irregular arrivals.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

If a Turkish barber has broken the law, like the boat people have, then yes include them in it.

You seem to think we have an obligation to the boat people. They aren’t our problem

We kind of do… we signed the Refugee convention. We also got rid of all the legal routes into the country so the only way in is illegally on a boat.

we could have sent them back, but dammit - we left the Dublin agreement

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If a Turkish barber has broken the law, like the boat people have, then yes include them in it.

You seem to think we have an obligation to the boat people. They aren’t our problem

Somebody who comes here and claims asylum has the right to have their claim heard and processed.

 

[shmmeee]

I thought the logic was if you voted for somebody who had said or done something then you are the same so that people can just cry "racist" about anybody who voted reform?

Gets a bit murky when you dive into that logic doesn't it?

No the logic is if you vote for a fascist far right party you’re far right and a fascist. These are defined words with meanings. You keep pulling it back to “racist” which is an opinion on what someone who wants to deport all brown people because one killed some kids are.

And yes Rupert Lowe supports deportation of legal UK citizens based on ethnicity.

 

[bigfatronssba]

No country’s immigration problems are caused by a few thousand asylum seekers.

As I said further up, immigration is a symptom, not a cause

 

[shmmeee]

As I said further up, immigration is a symptom, not a cause

Of a well respected and functioning economy? Yes I agree.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Somebody who comes here and claims asylum has the right to have their claim heard and processed.

And we have the right to refuse

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Would love to see the DNA results of a lot of Reform voters , bet there isn't many pure English among them

Given the number of data breaches there have been at these genomics companies, it shouldn't be too hard to find!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

As I said further up, immigration is a symptom, not a cause

Maybe we could work much harder on the causes so the 'symptom' disappears anyway.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Of a well respected and functioning economy? Yes I agree.

Our economy is shite

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

And we have the right to refuse

Yes we do, but it needs to be done by the book and you can't refuse someone's claim based on how they entered the country.