Mucca Mad Boys
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Or perhaps they are actually onto something…
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If that were the case,why have Brexit?
Grendel
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I think Kendall m ay be the first - she could not even be bothered to sit on the front bench
Captain Dart
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Starmer just said she is going nowhere so she's toast, maybe she will resign 'to spend more time with her family' by the end of the month. Has Labour got anyone better or even remotely competent?
Grendel
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Is there anyone less competent than Reeves? She is a disaster and need firing now.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Kendall is probably second only to the odious Wes Streeting in being the biggest Tory in the party. Would be nice to see him leave next
Brighton Sky Blue
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Grendel
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He is the bookies favourite to be next Labour leader
Brighton Sky Blue
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No government has made this big a waste of a huge majority since...the previous one
rob9872
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Horrible woman
SBAndy
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At least the previous one had a generational event to blame. This one has just fucked it for a laugh.
Captain Dart
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She'll be gone before long.
chiefdave
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Not really buying into the idea that the ISA changes are a wealth tax. Pretty sure when most people refer to a wealth tax they're thinking of the 1% and billionaires, not regular workers trying to put a few quid away.
Anyway, went hunting for some stats, not sure I'd be targeting people earing £10-50K for a wealth tax.
Anyway, went hunting for some stats, not sure I'd be targeting people earing £10-50K for a wealth tax.
rob9872
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chiefdave
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If they can't find anyone more competent than Reeves then we've got big problems.
I guess those top bands put their savings into something else?
Captain Dart
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The main effect will be on 40% income tax payers, middle class, middle managers.
SBAndy
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The graph doesn’t really show anything. Yes, the middle cohort may hold the majority of ISAs but how many of them are making use of the £20k annual limit, or putting more than £5k into it annually? Thats not covered. Naturally, looking at the ‘market value’ plot I’d suggest that the changes would indeed hit the highest earners heaviest.
rob9872
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Sky News: Lottery winner Michael Carroll in line for next Chancellor
chiefdave
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The mega-bucks people have got accountants to shove their money in places like the Caymans, changing ISA rules will have a negligible impact on them.
Bet a fair chunk of the money in ISA comes from people inheriting.
Not so sure.
Sky Blue Pete
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I just want fairness in how long people have
Wow three people.
So I can see why you are so shocked that he isn't getting much support in here.
You literally end up arguing against your own previous points, it's hilarious.
Brighton Sky Blue
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I think Pete has praised Starmer a fair bit to be fair, and I think he would agree with that.
Either way, whether it's 2 or 3 or 5 it's certainly not 'many'.
mmttww
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She can come off as too righteous when she talks especially in the Commons, but I'm struggling to see what qualifies her as 'horrible'? Help me understand why she gets singled out quite a lot, because she seems a long way from the worst offender in that chamber, either from a policy or a behaviour POV.
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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As the tax relates to the interest received not the amount saved it isn't a wealth tax, its an income tax. Some would argue that there shouldn't be any tax free interest as the personal allowance takes this into account regarding earnings, though I think there should be some incentive to save for those with little disposable income. 20k pa is a lot more than that though.
Captain Dart
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The fall out unfolds.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Three people from a supposedly left wing dominated forum.
Hardly a ringing endorsement is it.
Bout time isn't it?
Been out of step for ages both EU
and USA,and even Switzerland?
SBAndy
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tisza
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More the argument that cash ISAs are tying up money the Govt would like people to invest in other things eg stocks & shares to stimulate growth. It's the total amount tied-up rather than individual benefits. Unsurprisingly it's the investment firms and big business that would like to see cash ISAs go.
Grendel
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The comment was regarding left wing people and frankly if the Tories has delivered this shambles many would be all over it.
Dough brain from Bedworth is still saying this is a left wing government.
Lets be honest he was one selling you the labour dream and you have just nodded along.
Going really well isn't it?
Grendel
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To be fair its just one as the other one is the rear end of the pantomime horse
Mucca Mad Boys
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You can get stocks and shares ISAs and yes, the 20k per limit applies there too…