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Grendel

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You Grendel and Nick the United Peoples Front. Protecting the ISAs and private schools of the working man. 🫡

How’s the flat in Bedworth? You really are a jealous chap aren’t you? Was one of your siblings sent to private school? It would explain the rage.
 

Grendel

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Mucca Mad Boys

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Doubtful. What are the circumstances that will lead to an early election? They're not going to lose a confidence vote realistically with the majority they have.
Honestly, it’s unprecedented but after how many more U-turns before Starmer packs it in or is kicked out? A new leader and there’ll be calls for a new election.

I didn’t vote for Labour but at least thought they could push through some meaningful reforms that could benefit the country. It’s a wasted government and it’s already ran out of steam.

Apparently, according to Labour-leaning ‘sources’ I follow on X, Starmer said the welfare bill was a matter of ‘confidence’ and the number of rebelling MPs supposedly grew.

In my view, Labour is in an identity crisis because what or who does the party actually stand for? Seriously, if Corbyn launches a new party it could be cataclysmic for Labour.
 

wingy

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Honestly, it’s unprecedented but after how many more U-turns before Starmer packs it in or is kicked out? A new leader and there’ll be calls for a new election.

I didn’t vote for Labour but at least thought they could push through some meaningful reforms that could benefit the country. It’s a wasted government and it’s already ran out of steam.

Apparently, according to Labour-leaning ‘sources’ I follow on X, Starmer said the welfare bill was a matter of ‘confidence’ and the number of rebelling MPs supposedly grew.

In my view, Labour is in an identity crisis because what or who does the party actually stand for? Seriously, if Corbyn launches a new party it could be cataclysmic for Labour.
Did I read it on here,or pick it up online but the guy behind it all could've been a Tory adviser, Liz Kendall, Reeve's come out like storm troopers with their firm talk,!
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Did I read it on here,or pick it up online but the guy behind it all could've been a Tory adviser, Liz Kendall, Reeve's come out like storm troopers with their firm talk,!
No idea. Which scenario would be worse:

1) an ex/current Tory advisor dictating policy for a Labour government

2) Labour actually drafted these plans themselves

Both scenarios are pretty damning and frankly, the government can’t claim to be in control.

At least when Tony Blair put the Iraq War motion to parliament, he had the bollocks to threaten resignation when facing a significant backbench rebellion. For all Blair’s many faults, he generally stood behind what he believed was the ‘right’ policy (ironically, this example ended up being v wrong).
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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No idea. Which scenario would be worse:

1) an ex/current Tory advisor dictating policy for a Labour government

2) Labour actually drafted these plans themselves

Both scenarios are pretty damning and frankly, the government can’t claim to be in control.

At least when Tony Blair put the Iraq War motion to parliament, he had the bollocks to threaten resignation when facing a significant backbench rebellion. For all Blair’s many faults, he generally stood behind what he believed was the ‘right’ policy (ironically, this example ended up being v wrong).
Blair should have stood in The Hague with fellow war criminal Bush. Not a great example. He lied to the British public, and to Parliament, and he knew he was lying.
 

shmmeee

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🤣 Christ. Jealous and bitter about "wealthy" people putting money in savings now? 🤣

Wanting people to pay tax isn’t jealousy you weirdo. I probably earn more than you.
 

Captain Dart

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Nick

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Wanting people to pay tax isn’t jealousy you weirdo. I probably earn more than you.

Apart from when you're going to the cash point to pay your drug dealer.

This is the issue with those who obsess over politics, usually massive hypocrites.

You probably do, it's you going on about people being "wealthy".
 

Grendel

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tisza

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I didn’t vote for Labour but at least thought they could push through some meaningful reforms that could benefit the country. It’s a wasted government and it’s already ran out of steam.
They are just finding out Govt is difficult (lack of practice). You can't do everything, you can't keep everybody happy etc
 

Mcbean

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Apparently with all the changes the new welfare policy will apparently cost us the tax payer more - incompetence at its highest level
 

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