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shmmeee

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Well we have had issues with infrastructure projects going on for
15-20 yrs now .
Maybe if we wait for HS2 to be completed part of expertise and workforce will be available to have a go at some serious DIY.
What an absolute failure our energy policy has become?
Planning 25 yrs ahead .

Wonder where all the power for the empty carriages will come from? :poop: :poop:


Hitachi Set to Exit U.K. Nuclear Power Project, Reports Say
Bloomberg ENG 15/09/2020 07:34
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(Bloomberg) — Hitachi Ltd. is poised to withdraw from a proposed U.K. nuclear power plant, according to Japan’s Mainichi newspaper, the latest blow to the troubled project and the nation’s effort to replace its aging atomic fleet.

Hitachi’s board will decide as soon as Wednesday to exit the Wylfa nuclear power project in Wales, Mainichi reported, citing an unidentified person. Work was suspended on the 20 billion-pound ($26 billion) project in January 2019 after failing to reach a financing agreement with the U.K. government and the Japanese firm recently concluded it was impossible to restart work, according to Mainichi.

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A Tokyo-based spokesman for Hitachi said Tuesday that the company is exploring multiple options and nothing has been decided yet. Horizon Nuclear Power Ltd., Hitachi’s subsidiary developing the project, declined to comment.

The U.K. government had put nuclear at the heart of its effort to attract billions of pounds of investment in new power plants and create thousands of jobs but has hit several hurdles. How to finance these hugely expensive pieces of infrastructure remains the biggest unanswered question as well as how much involvement Britain wants from foreign investors.

France’s Electricite de France SA is the only company currently building new nuclear plants in Britain and it is waiting to hear from the government how it can help finance its second new station — Sizewell C.

Read more about Britain’s uncertain nuclear future here

Prospects for the Wylfa plant were looking slightly better last month when Horizon said it was engaged with the U.K. government on reviving the project. The government is expected to give some communication on how it will finance new nuclear projects in its energy white paper next month.

Hitachi will be informing the U.K. government of its decision to leave the project as soon as Tuesday, according to Japanese broadcaster TV Asahi.

The Japanese company had been maintaining a small staff at Horizon and continued to push for planning permission after the government began reviewing a “regulated asset base” funding model, which curbs construction risk for developers by having consumers pay upfront for a new plant through their energy bills.

Planned U.K. nuclear power projects located at Wylfa, Oldbury and Moorside have been suspended since Hitachi and Toshiba Corp. were unable to secure private financing or partnerships. Over the last decade, Japan’s manufacturers scooped up nuclear projects around the world in a bid to supply their own reactor technology and support fledgling sales, but the risk of rising costs, safety concerns and stiffer competition from other energy sources has led to nearly all being scrapped.

Hitachi bought Horizon from Germany’s two largest utilities for 697 million pounds ($894 million) in 2012 with the backing of the U.K. government.

(Adds Horizon comment in third paragraph)

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Why don’t we just build them ourselves? Lack of expertise?
 

skybluetony176

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Angela Rayner doing PMQ’s today while Keir Starmer is self isolating. Could work out well this period of self isolation for Labour. Get as many of his front bench as possible to stand in against Boris. I think everyone of them could run rings around him. Demonstrates first hand how the Tories have been dumbed down.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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having to give an apology is hardly a big disincentive to try and get away with it.

It should be a fine and a mark against your name. Three marks and it's an instant by-election and they can't stand in it.
 

Grendel

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Bizarre interview with Starmer on the Marr show
 

Grendel

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He’s doesn’t appear to stand for anything.

his sitting on the fence on every issue was odd. Whatever your political persuasion you’d certainly go for the jugular on non Covid issues but on Brexit and the economy he dodged the bullet - can’t raise taxes and no wealth tax and get Brexit done and dusted. Strange strategy - he’s clearly not dim but he’s putting on a good dim act and with no charisma either
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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his sitting on the fence on every issue was odd. Whatever your political persuasion you’d certainly go for the jugular on non Covid issues but on Brexit and the economy he dodged the bullet - can’t raise taxes and no wealth tax and get Brexit done and dusted. Strange strategy - he’s clearly not dim but he’s putting on a good dim act and with no charisma either

You can tell he's a lawyer. It's all about being calm, composed and unemotional, focusing on the facts. He's very intelligent and way more competent than Johnson (or anyone else likely to take over from him) but we know that doesn't win elections,

He's capable of running the country. He's just probably not capable of convincing the public he should be given the opportunity. Personality is worth way more than competence these days.

Tories can win elections, but they can't govern. Too many of them are too far detached from the reality for the majority of people to understand what's needed.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Not really seeing the advantages of the proposed set up over bringing the railways back into public ownership. Just seems a way to guarantee private companies don't make losses.

That's the entire point of it. Can't renationalise them cos then when things improve their rich mates can't profit from it.
 

wingy

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The Queen is set to receive a government 'bailout' and people aren't happy about it
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The government has confirmed that it will top up the Queen’s income following a slump in revenue from the Crown Estate during the pandemic – and people aren’t sympathetic.

The treasury has said it will top up the Sovereign Grant in response to a decrease in value of the royal family’s property portfolio.

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The value of the portfolio, which includes shops in London’s West End, has plummeted by more than £500m since coronavirus struck.

But, on social media, people weren’t particularly sympathetic.

Lord Andrew Adonis, in a series of tweets, wrote: “There is no case for a bailout this year.”

In another tweet, he wrote that he would “oppose it strongly in the House of Lords”.

Lord Adonis wasn’t the only person frustrated with the Queen getting an income top-up.

One furious Twitter user said: “This government has thrown freelancers and the self-employed under a bus, left tens of thousands struggling to feed their families and pay their rent, but the richest woman in the country gets a handout?”

Another angry Twitter user wrote: “Food banks, job losses... and this.”

Others proceeded to play on the world’s smallest violin.

One's income top-up is certainly controversial.

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wingy

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People Aged 25-69 Are In For A Treat This September
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Cold War Steve, aka Christopher Spencer, notorious for his surreal, politically-charged collages, has reluctantly agreed to “reverse” the double-sided giant public artwork, which was allocated a prime spot on Boscombe Beach.


Boris ‘cover-up’
The “darker” side will be covered up. Beach-goers will instead see the reverse image, an “exemplification of the positivity of the country” featuring NHS nurses, Colonel Tom Moore and an LGBTQ rainbow flag.

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The ‘lighter’ side of Cold War Steve’s beach work, showing Britain’s ‘warmth and positivity’ (Cold War Steve)
The offending image, which includes Dominic Cummings in a military general’s outfit being driven in a car alongside Vladimir Putin, a slug-like Nigel Farage and saluting far right protesters, will be available on the Arts by the Sea website.

In a letter appealing to Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole Council to reverse its ban, the artist wrote: “I wanted this diptych to have two distinct sides. The light would complement the dark and vice versa.”

‘Let public decide’
“The dark side of this piece is not about Bournemouth, it is about our leaders who have let us down so badly and about other divisive figures who say they love our country but shame us with their behaviour and attitudes.”


‘No censorship’
The festival organisers said there had been no “censorship” of the work.

A spokesman said: “There was an understanding that we would receive images in good time to review, which was not honoured by the producer. The dystopian image did not meet the description of being “playful” supplied to us by the producer in advance.”

Spencer, who said he had not misled the council over his intended work, added: “I look forward to hearing what people think about the artwork they can see and also the artwork they can’t. Someone else made that decision for them, sadly.”

‘Mistake to cover up’
The Birmingham artist, whose image of Brexit Britain sinking beneath the Thames graced the cover of Time magazine, will next week unveil his next large scale public artworks in Liverpool – a super-sized, 100 piece jigsaw called Trumpscape, “a dark/apocalyptic vision of President Trump’s America in the age of Covid.”

Reflecting on the Bournemouth ban, Cold War Steve said: “I understand the work is challenging, but so far people have taken this the right way, seen the comedy, the anger, the social commentary and satire and reflected on it as a whole and not seen it as simply a provocation.”

“I do feel it is a mistake for one side to be covered over and to ignore the message as a whole – to block out the dark and only celebrate the light feels counterproductive when we could have these difficult conversations together now
 

clint van damme

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Cold War Steve, aka Christopher Spencer, notorious for his surreal, politically-charged collages, has reluctantly agreed to “reverse” the double-sided giant public artwork, which was allocated a prime spot on Boscombe Beach.


Boris ‘cover-up’
The “darker” side will be covered up. Beach-goers will instead see the reverse image, an “exemplification of the positivity of the country” featuring NHS nurses, Colonel Tom Moore and an LGBTQ rainbow flag.

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The ‘lighter’ side of Cold War Steve’s beach work, showing Britain’s ‘warmth and positivity’ (Cold War Steve)
The offending image, which includes Dominic Cummings in a military general’s outfit being driven in a car alongside Vladimir Putin, a slug-like Nigel Farage and saluting far right protesters, will be available on the Arts by the Sea website.

In a letter appealing to Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole Council to reverse its ban, the artist wrote: “I wanted this diptych to have two distinct sides. The light would complement the dark and vice versa.”

‘Let public decide’
“The dark side of this piece is not about Bournemouth, it is about our leaders who have let us down so badly and about other divisive figures who say they love our country but shame us with their behaviour and attitudes.”


‘No censorship’
The festival organisers said there had been no “censorship” of the work.

A spokesman said: “There was an understanding that we would receive images in good time to review, which was not honoured by the producer. The dystopian image did not meet the description of being “playful” supplied to us by the producer in advance.”

Spencer, who said he had not misled the council over his intended work, added: “I look forward to hearing what people think about the artwork they can see and also the artwork they can’t. Someone else made that decision for them, sadly.”

‘Mistake to cover up’
The Birmingham artist, whose image of Brexit Britain sinking beneath the Thames graced the cover of Time magazine, will next week unveil his next large scale public artworks in Liverpool – a super-sized, 100 piece jigsaw called Trumpscape, “a dark/apocalyptic vision of President Trump’s America in the age of Covid.”

Reflecting on the Bournemouth ban, Cold War Steve said: “I understand the work is challenging, but so far people have taken this the right way, seen the comedy, the anger, the social commentary and satire and reflected on it as a whole and not seen it as simply a provocation.”

“I do feel it is a mistake for one side to be covered over and to ignore the message as a whole – to block out the dark and only celebrate the light feels counterproductive when we could have these difficult conversations together now

He's coming to Cov! Can't wait
 

clint van damme

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He did some other stuff before Coldwar Steve - Guerilla LeVell and Suez Tosh (and one more that I can’t remember the name for the life of me) but he’s taken it all down.

I saw some of that on Twitter some time back. Had forgotten all about it.
 

Ian1779

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Boris in can’t wipe his own arse shocker


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I do think there is a valid argument that any PM should be paid more than £150K.

Fuck him still though, it’s not like he even pays for all his kids.
 

skybluetony176

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I do think there is a valid argument that any PM should be paid more than £150K.

Fuck him still though, it’s not like he even pays for all his kids.
Pretty sure the stories are being driven from within No10. I doubt that they’re with Boris’ blessing as my gut is telling me that Gove and Cummings are conspiring against Boris to install Gove in No10. The stories feel like they’re being driven to undermine Boris from a he can’t sort his personal life out, he can’t sort the country out or Boris the elitist complaining about not being able to afford a nanny and having to pay for meals while single mother nurses are juggling child care and relying on food banks. It’s either an ill thought out campaign to garnish sympathy for Boris or a very well thought out campaign to undermine him.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Pretty sure the stories are being driven from within No10. I doubt that they’re with Boris’ blessing as my gut is telling me that Gove and Cummings are conspiring against Boris to install Gove in No10. The stories feel like they’re being driven to undermine Boris from a he can’t sort his personal life out, he can’t sort the country out or Boris the elitist complaining about not being able to afford a nanny and having to pay for meals while single mother nurses are juggling child care and relying on food banks. It’s either an ill thought out campaign to garnish sympathy for Boris or a very well thought out campaign to undermine him.

Great! From one fuckwit to another. At least this fuckwit has some comedic value and charisma to distract you. Gove has nothing. Whiny, grating voice, no personality, stupid ideas, infinitely punchable face.
 

skybluetony176

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Great! From one fuckwit to another. At least this fuckwit has some comedic value and charisma to distract you. Gove has nothing. Whiny, grating voice, no personality, stupid ideas, infinitely punchable face.
I don’t think ultimately it will change anything other than the face. Unless there’s a genuine leadership contest where the party has a clear choice in candidates and one of them doesn’t come with the baggage of Cummings and his weirdos nothing will change. Cummings will still be in charge.
 

clint van damme

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kicking off between Armenia and Azerbaijan, Turkey pulling the strings by the look of it. Just what the world needs, another war.
 

shmmeee

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I see Labour are running attack ads against Sunak now. Almost like they know Johnson will be gone soon.

Quickest lame duck PM ever?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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I see Labour are running attack ads against Sunak now. Almost like they know Johnson will be gone soon.

Quickest lame duck PM ever?

Considering the last incumbent was May who was against the wall from the off it's quite something for someone to be even worse off so soon, esp after winning such a massive majority.

Mind you the parliamentary lot never wanted him in the first place and would kick him out first chance. Wholly reliant on support from the members and once he lost that the knives would be out quicker than you could say "et tu, Gove?" All he had to do to lose that support was show himself to be incompetent and that was never going to take long.

I'm just hoping we've reached the bottom of the barrel. It'll still be very much the dregs of the barrel, but not quite the bottom of it. We've had thoughts "I'd take May/Cameron/Brown/Blair/Major/Thatcher over this anyday" I can't imagine a situation other than imminent annihilation that could lead anyone thinking 'I'd even take Johnson back in charge now'
 

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