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shmmeee

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Considering the last incumbent was May who was against the wall from the off it's quite something for someone to be even worse off so soon, esp after winning such a massive majority.

Mind you the parliamentary lot never wanted him in the first place and would kick him out first chance. Wholly reliant on support from the members and once he lost that the knives would be out quicker than you could say "et tu, Gove?" All he had to do to lose that support was show himself to be incompetent and that was never going to take long.

I'm just hoping we've reached the bottom of the barrel. It'll still be very much the dregs of the barrel, but not quite the bottom of it. We've had thoughts "I'd take May/Cameron/Brown/Blair/Major/Thatcher over this anyday" I can't imagine a situation other than imminent annihilation that could lead anyone thinking 'I'd even take Johnson back in charge now'
Only way is up?

Could be the new Things Can Only Get Better :p
 

NorthernWisdom

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I see Labour are running attack ads against Sunak now. Almost like they know Johnson will be gone soon.

Quickest lame duck PM ever?
Now, much as it was be careful what you wish for when May went, I do fear ideological insanity if Sunak takes over. He may be more competent (who isn't!) but ultimately Johnson isn't small state, or ideologically averse to spending to help out people. Sunak, I'm less sure...
 

shmmeee

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Now, much as it was be careful what you wish for when May went, I do fear ideological insanity if Sunak takes over. He may be more competent (who isn't!) but ultimately Johnson isn't small state, or ideologically averse to spending to help out people. Sunak, I'm less sure...
Funny one isn’t it, because he’s probably got most of his popularity from handing out huge amounts of cash in furlough and Nando’s, but you’re right given free reign he’ll almost certainly pivot to his Thatcherite roots. Then again, everyone’s a socialist in a crisis. Like all Tories his ultimate ideology may well be whatever keeps him in power.

I think their bigger problem is this apparent culture war strategy, which I don’t think he’s suited to at all. Not even because he’s Asian, Patel could do it easily, but his entire persona isn’t that sort of Clarkson-esque casual bigotry that Johnson excels at.
 

wingy

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Got to laugh at some of the soundbytes
Priti Patel considers setting up a processing centre for asylum seekers on the Ascension Islands!
Why not Gibraltar to close the circle,or NI as they'll all becoming that route come January?
 

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Now, much as it was be careful what you wish for when May went, I do fear ideological insanity if Sunak takes over. He may be more competent (who isn't!) but ultimately Johnson isn't small state, or ideologically averse to spending to help out people. Sunak, I'm less sure...
Sunak would take us much further down a US style capitalist road than we already are. Everything would be for sale to the private sector under him (then end up bailed out by public money when it goes wrong)
 

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I see Labour are running attack ads against Sunak now. Almost like they know Johnson will be gone soon.

Quickest lame duck PM ever?
Already started on here as well ; )

Ps as poor as May was (to be fair she was in a pretty impossible position on Brexit but then I lack sympathy after she truly fucked up her manifesto/election campaign), she at least still does her duty as an MP, unlike many others when they leave office.
 
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shmmeee

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Already started on here as well ; )

Ps as poor as May was (to be fair she was in a pretty impossible position on Brexit but then I lack sympathy after she truly fucked up her manifesto/election campaign), she at least still does her duty as an MP, unlike many others when they leave office.
I disagree with May on probably virtually everything, but I thought she genuinely did her best in the national interest as she saw it. You can tell she takes her job seriously.
 

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Already started on here as well ; )

Ps as poor as May was (to be fair she was in a pretty impossible position on Brexit but then I lack sympathy after she truly fucked up her manifesto/election campaign), she at least still does her duty as an MP, unlike many others when they leave office.
I disagree with May on probably virtually everything, but I thought she genuinely did her best in the national interest as she saw it. You can tell she takes her job seriously.
Agree with both of you. She's also the last defeated Prime Minister since... Callaghan? to hang around and seek re-election as an MP, the term after their defeat in the country. It shows she cares, even if in a different way to how I might.
 
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clint van damme

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May was so bad as home Secretary she should never have been anywhere near Downing st.
 

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He's under no threat from the parliamentary party is he?
The IT doesn’t work. It’s worse than the May conference when she could barely talk and the letters fell of the back scenery. They really couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery.
 
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wingy

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The IT doesn’t work. It’s worse than the May concert when she could barely talk and the letters fell of the back scenery. They really couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery.
Fancy not knowing which side of velcro is male or female.
Do you know I think I know who had that job ,a fine lad of Chinese descent.
Communist plot all over it!!😉
 

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The IT doesn’t work. It’s worse than the May conference when she could barely talk and the letters fell of the back scenery. They really couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery.
What a shambles. Even more embarrassingly the other parties have already held their virtual conferences and had them go off without a hitch. Of course as usual the Conservatives could use the same system as everyone else and had to come up with something 'world beating'.
All of the annual party conferences were forced into cyberspace by the coronavirus pandemic, which forced the cancellation of the planned Tory gathering in Birmingham.
But unlike Labour and Liberal Democrats, who largely relied on politicians delivering speeches into cameras, the Conservatives have created an elaborate 3D virtual conference, with a computer-generated auditorium, foyer and fringe meeting rooms.
And if you're wondering why its the usual answer.
Users can visit virtual stalls dotted around an exhibition hall, with companies paying between £6,000 and £25,000 for a presence.
Business delegates were charged £850 for a day pass, while non-members could pay £100 to watch.
 

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The IT doesn’t work. It’s worse than the May conference when she could barely talk and the letters fell of the back scenery. They really couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery.
Assume the IT was outsourced to Serco as well.
 

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Tony talks politics. Andrew Marr could be searching for a new job
 

clint van damme

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Robert Jenrick stiffs the council of a London borough for 40 million and it seems no one gives a fuck.

Robert Jenrick submits plans to build a holocaust memorial and receive hate mail death threats. State of this country.
 

wingy

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Listening to the speech today they sound very keen to manipulate the property market
 

chiefdave

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Listening to the speech today they sound very keen to manipulate the property market
Sounded like we've moved past the pretending to give a shit about stopping poor people dying stage onto the how can we make money out of this stage.