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fernandopartridge

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Recently moved from a house in Earlsdon to a house in Eastern Green. The value of the property I've moved into is less than the one I left behind in Earlsdon. But because water rates are based on pre-house inflation trends and instead on rateable value my water charges have more than doubled.

Anyway, received this email from ST the other day:

"We’ve all found ourselves in unprecedented times with COVID-19 over the last few months. Many of us are at home loads more and looking for ways to keep busy. Everyone’s cleaning the car or the patio more, and making their gardens look lovely, all of which uses a lot more water than usual.

Despite the recent rainfall, demand for water has increased by as much as 40% in some areas when the weather gets hotter, so we’ve been creating and pumping more treated water than ever before in our 30 year history to your taps.

As it takes us 12 hours to treat and pump water to your home, we’ve launched a new high water use alert system to make sure we can always get enough water to your community.

New water alert system to save water
Our new alert system will let you know when we see demand spiking in your local community.

To make sure we can get plenty of water to everyone, we’ll ask you to pull together as a community and temporarily stop using high usage water devices.

This will help us make sure there are no low pressure problems.

We’ll contact you by text to activate the alert"

Pull together as a community? What, you mean like share baths or piss on a neighbour's trees rather than wasting it down a loo? Why don't you just say "shame and embarrass"? And then offer me a rebate on the 1k a year I give you? Money sucking b'stards.

England's privatised water firms paid £57bn in dividends since 1991
I've had that bizarre scenario, moved into a house with the RV method of billing whereas was previously metered. Bills have doubled, I've requested a meter.

Used to work at the Valuation Office and we got questions about the RVs all the time even though it was replaced by Council Tax bands as a valuation method in 1991, water companies would pass the buck over the charging.
 

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Worth giving them a ring, or emailing. I moved into a house on the same street I previously lived in and the bill was way higher. They offered to put in a water meter for free.

In the end they couldn’t install one as they couldn’t find the pipe they needed to fit it on so they put me on a much lower rate. Pay even less than I did before now.

Tbf, I have previously done a little arithmetic around what my potential charges would be if I went on a meter, but what with the garden and washing the cars and bikes it feels like I wouldn't gain much. A grand a year, though, for a bog-standard 3-bed semi seems steep to me. I pay £81 pm whereas for my 3-bed Earlsdon terrace it was £34 pm.

I might just make an effort and raise the question, even though I doubt that I'll get past the response "get a meter".
 

Sbarcher

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Did think that! It’s a bit weird, there’s access points for my neighbours on both sides but not one for mine. My guess is it was on the drive and the idiots who were here before me laid the new drive over it.
If they can't fit a meter, they are obliged to put you on a fallback rate which is so much cheaper than RV. This should be the case with all households, but will only kick in if you request a water meter, robbing bastards!
 

chiefdave

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If they can't fit a meter, they are obliged to put you on a fallback rate which is so much cheaper than RV. This should be the case with all households, but will only kick in if you request a water meter, robbing bastards!
I'm paying £225 a year now! It was £80 something quid a month.
 

skyblue1991

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The people who are questioning why those that have worked through lockdown aren't getting a bonus from the government.

Be happy you're still employed you ungrateful twats!

Before anyone asks, yes I have worked though lockdown and appreciate that I still have a job to go to. That's my bonus!

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hill83

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The people who are questioning why those that have worked through lockdown aren't getting a bonus from the government.

Be happy you're still employed you ungrateful twats!

Before anyone asks, yes I have worked though lockdown and appreciate that I still have a job to go to. That's my bonus!

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I've worked the lot as a key worker and would take that every time over being furloughed and having the worry of job security.
 

chiefdave

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The people who are questioning why those that have worked through lockdown aren't getting a bonus from the government.

Be happy you're still employed you ungrateful twats!

Before anyone asks, yes I have worked though lockdown and appreciate that I still have a job to go to. That's my bonus!
Being furloughed would only be fun if you knew you had a job to go back to and you could actually go out and do anything. Its not a great laugh being sat at home every day wondering if you'll have a job to go back to.

My latest annoyance is that the regular daily meetings I have to have despite being furloughed are now more often than not getting cancelled at the last minute as those still working are 'too busy'. If its that busy take people off furlough!
 

RedSalmon

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Not sure if this has been said on here before, but what really pisses me off these days is the inability of anyone in authority/power to admit that they got something wrong and utter the word 'sorry'. From managers to politicians the culture shift thats gone from accepting that you got something wrong (with the best of intentions) to not even acknowledging a mistake or slight error of judgement is amazing. Is it seen as a sign of weakness or do they all genuinely think they never got anything wrong?
 

hill83

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I didn't know that was a thing. How would that even come up in a thought process?!?

It's a pure "me me me" attitude. "It's not fair that Dave got to sit on his arse for 3/4 months getting paid and I should be compensated because it's not fair and I am very upset"

I'm the king of sitting on my arse, but the thought process of that is reserved for pricks.
 

Tommo1993

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When people use Covid-19 as a cheap, lazy excuse.

Example: we’re moving property, our landlord told us he requires 3 months notice. Er, no. Our 12 month contract expired on 28th February, and was not renewed.

According to him, it’s because Covid-19/lockdown happened. So you lost all ability to text and email then? Besides, lockdown didn’t start until 23/03/20!
 

ccfc92

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I've worked the lot as a key worker and would take that every time over being furloughed and having the worry of job security.

I was put on furlough and was glad to be honest. I worked in timeshare resales, so obviously sales had diminished because of corona. I would have been killing myself for sales to get effectively 20% wages plus commission. As it goes, I've been made redundant now and it's all worked out for the best.

I know I'm a lucky one though!
 

hill83

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I was put on furlough and was glad to be honest. I worked in timeshare resales, so obviously sales had diminished because of corona. I would have been killing myself for sales to get effectively 20% wages plus commission. As it goes, I've been made redundant now and it's all worked out for the best.

I know I'm a lucky one though!

Shows what strange times we are in when all the above is good. Glad it worked out for you.
 

ccfc92

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Shows what strange times we are in when all the above is good. Glad it worked out for you.

I actually was looking to leave in Jan 2020, so would have missed out on furlough scheme and redundancy if I had of moved jobs. Thank you :)
 

SBAndy

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The people who are questioning why those that have worked through lockdown aren't getting a bonus from the government.

Be happy you're still employed you ungrateful twats!

Before anyone asks, yes I have worked though lockdown and appreciate that I still have a job to go to. That's my bonus!

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Absolutely appreciate what you’re saying, but I did get a small ‘bonus’ from my employer. Extra day’s holiday (doesn’t have to be used this year) as well as being able to claim a takeaway for the family on expenses. Know that I’m lucky considering some of the circumstances out there.
 

hill83

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Absolutely appreciate what you’re saying, but I did get a small ‘bonus’ from my employer. Extra day’s holiday (doesn’t have to be used this year) as well as being able to claim a takeaway for the family on expenses. Know that I’m lucky considering some of the circumstances out there.

Which is fair enough but would you be moaning if you didn't get it?
 

hill83

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Actually as I think on it, I can see the logic for supermarket workers, care assistants etc, low paid workers who've been exposed, but who've had necessary jobs.

That's a bit different to me sitting in my spare bedroom!

Fair point actually.
 

skyblue1991

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Actually as I think on it, I can see the logic for supermarket workers, care assistants etc, low paid workers who've been exposed, but who've had necessary jobs.

That's a bit different to me sitting in my spare bedroom!
I'd like to think after all this has blown over how effential these people are to day to day living. All for a living wage.

Which brings me to another annoyance: people that look down on others because of their job. I'd like to think most arent like that but there people that treat supermarket staff, shop workers etc like shit. They are trying to earn a living in this world just like you and without them you would be screwed

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shmmeee

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I'd like to think after all this has blown over how effential these people are to day to day living. All for a living wage.

Which brings me to another annoyance: people that look down on others because of their job. I'd like to think most arent like that but there people that treat supermarket staff, shop workers etc like shit. They are trying to earn a living in this world just like you and without them you would be screwed

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They don’t earn anything like a living wage. Rather than a bonus the best thing the government could do is implement an actual living wage either for these essential roles or for everyone. If they are essential for private businesses I’m sure something could be worked out in tax breaks ties to business performance so the employers aren’t adversely affected. Though most supermarkets seem to be doing alright.
 

ajsccfc

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I'm happy for anyone who's been working in direct contact with potentially sick people this whole time to get a little thank you. So far I've been working as normal but from home so if I just get through all this and the aftermath with nothing changing in my circumstances that's more than good enough for me.
 

Walsgrave

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I'd like to think after all this has blown over how effential these people are to day to day living. All for a living wage.

Which brings me to another annoyance: people that look down on others because of their job. I'd like to think most arent like that but there people that treat supermarket staff, shop workers etc like shit. They are trying to earn a living in this world just like you and without them you would be screwed

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There is a really good book which has garnered renewed interest during the crisis called 'Bullshit Jobs' by David Graeber. Basically, he exposes the idea that in general, the higher the remuneration, the less useful to society a particular job is. That is to say; we have an economy where managerial feudalism dominates, and the individuals who are paid the least are doing the most important jobs. Not only that; but the higher remunerated people keep making up all sorts of bullshit paperwork to justify their own jobs, as paperwork is a proxy for action and keeps them employed/feeling important. My favourite phrase is the following:
'Health and education are equally hard hit: managers now feel they need to each have their little squadron of assistants, who often have nothing to do, so they end up making up new exotic forms of paperwork for the teachers, doctors, nurses… who thus have ever less time to actually teach or treat or care for anyone.'

He also makes the distinction between what one would call a 'shit' job and the 'bullshit' job. The so called 'shit' job that people refer to - e.g. supermarkets and cleaning jobs, are different in that although people doing these jobs may hate them because of poor conditions etc, they require skill and talent; and without them we would notice a big difference. The 'bullshit' job on the otherh nad, offers no real benefit and basically the people doing these jobs are not only stealing a wage, but making lives difficult for the less well remunerated people.

I've read the book and the argument does have a few flaws. However, looking back on my own experience, I now think how true this all is. The world does not need people who make fancy Powerpoint slides helping themselves to millions, nor those who come up with exotic forms of paperwork to justify their own existence. It needs those doing the essential jobs.
 

chiefdave

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There is a really good book which has garnered renewed interest during the crisis called 'Bullshit Jobs' by David Graeber. Basically, he exposes the idea that in general, the higher the remuneration, the less useful to society a particular job is. That is to say; we have an economy where managerial feudalism dominates, and the individuals who are paid the least are doing the most important jobs.
Think I'll have to give that a read. Pretty much every company I've worked at you could remove the vast majority of the managers and directors with zero consequences.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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There is a really good book which has garnered renewed interest during the crisis called 'Bullshit Jobs' by David Graeber. Basically, he exposes the idea that in general, the higher the remuneration, the less useful to society a particular job is. That is to say; we have an economy where managerial feudalism dominates, and the individuals who are paid the least are doing the most important jobs. Not only that; but the higher remunerated people keep making up all sorts of bullshit paperwork to justify their own jobs, as paperwork is a proxy for action and keeps them employed/feeling important. My favourite phrase is the following:
'Health and education are equally hard hit: managers now feel they need to each have their little squadron of assistants, who often have nothing to do, so they end up making up new exotic forms of paperwork for the teachers, doctors, nurses… who thus have ever less time to actually teach or treat or care for anyone.'

He also makes the distinction between what one would call a 'shit' job and the 'bullshit' job. The so called 'shit' job that people refer to - e.g. supermarkets and cleaning jobs, are different in that although people doing these jobs may hate them because of poor conditions etc, they require skill and talent; and without them we would notice a big difference. The 'bullshit' job on the otherh nad, offers no real benefit and basically the people doing these jobs are not only stealing a wage, but making lives difficult for the less well remunerated people.

I've read the book and the argument does have a few flaws. However, looking back on my own experience, I now think how true this all is. The world does not need people who make fancy Powerpoint slides helping themselves to millions, nor those who come up with exotic forms of paperwork to justify their own existence. It needs those doing the essential jobs.

In multiple schools I’ve seen bullshit leadership roles created just so people’s mates or ‘the right fit’ are put into senior positions.
 

Nick

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Nothing worse than gimps in high places who have no idea to do any of the jobs they are managing. It's pointless.
 

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