EFL Decision on Coventry’s future expected today (2 Viewers)

larry_david

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In reality, it shouldn't go to a vote. If it is deemed safe and practical to start, it should go ahead as per the required rules. Any team that can't or doesn't want to field a team should forfeit the game(s) 1-0
I agree Steve. If it's deemed fit and safe to return, they return. I said before but if we were really crowned champions without finishing the season... Wouldn't that just feel a bit crap?
 

Philosorapter

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I would like to see the top eschelons still use the pyramid system of promotion and relegation. This is what ties the sport together with the grassroots.

Having teams in a division not being relegated just seems so protectionist.
 
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No surprises that the bottom 6 clubs in the prem have voted to not play the season out and void the league. Surely the decision shouldnt be made by clubs as they all have a vested interested in one way or the other.

the sunderland forum is full of posts about voiding the league and starting it again next season.
The only clubs who will lose out are those in the playoff and promotion position. The rest of the clubs either have nothing to play for or looking at relegation
 

shmmeee

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Abandon the remaining games, not void the season.

As Boddy said this morning -

"We believe that the situation should be dealt with the same as other countries, France have produced final tables based on final points per game, Scotland have done something similar."

Ah then in that case I retract my previous comments. End the season and award based on PPG or current standings is fine.
 

better days

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Have to hope they do the right thing re promotion relegation now I think. This below looks logical and fair, although I don't expect logical and fair decisions to be made.
Prem No relegation promote 2 Ch autos 22 teams next season
Champs no relegation promote 2 L1 autos 24 teams next season
L1 relegate 2 cut adrift promote 3 L2 autos 24 teams next season
L2 no relegation promote Barrow 22 teams next season

Back to 92 teams, Prem get more games next year to keep TV happy, additional relegations agreed to realign in coming years or may just stick with an expanded Prem if they like the taste of additional TV revenue.
The position of the Premier League is starting to develop around a strong desire for relegations to still happen
The top clubs don't want extra clubs in the division next season but perhaps more importantly if there is no relegation this season almost all the games still to take place become almost meaningless
The TV companies quite rightly point out that glorified friendlies will have very little interest to most neutrals so audiences will be pitiful
The teams near the bottom will still push for no relegation but horse trading has probably been going on behind the scenes to overcome their complaints
 

skybluepm2

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I agree Steve. If it's deemed fit and safe to return, they return. I said before but if we were really crowned champions without finishing the season... Wouldn't that just feel a bit crap?

I was literally just thinking the same thing. It’d certainly be a damp squib, particularly not being able to celebrate together and praise the team and management who have been nothing short of superb. But then again, if we were to remain in League 1 that would be utterly gut wrenching. We’ve taken some kicks to the nutsack in recent years but my god that would take the biscuit!
 

ccfc92

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I agree Steve. If it's deemed fit and safe to return, they return. I said before but if we were really crowned champions without finishing the season... Wouldn't that just feel a bit crap?

I agree, but completely scrapping the league and voiding it will be more crap.

We were starting stretching our legs and going to win the league, probably within the remaining games, so would be a travesty if we won't be allocated champions.
 

MusicDating

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Like what appears to have happened in Scotland, I suspect the EFL have given hints to clubs at to what might happen if the remaining season was abandoned.

If they gave a nod that they'd get just the play-offs played (one game semis, final a few days later all at a neutral ground), and final positions would be based on Philosorapter's super computer predictions played out 10,000 times, then the EFL would defo get the votes to end the season now.

Tbf even the the Wycombe chairman has said end the season, so the financial situation must be pretty precarious.
 

Brylowes

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The position of the Premier League is starting to develop around a strong desire for relegations to still happen
The top clubs don't want extra clubs in the division next season but perhaps more importantly if there is no relegation this season almost all the games still to take place become almost meaningless
The TV companies quite rightly point out that glorified friendlies will have very little interest to most neutrals so audiences will be pitiful
The teams near the bottom will still push for no relegation but horse trading has probably been going on behind the scenes to overcome their complaints
Not only teams at the top ‘but there’s several other teams In there that maybe safe this Season
‘but won’t relish getting sucked into a relegation battle with six teams going down next.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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At this point in time I would certainly take promotion and the season being ended. Obviously that hasn't been my first choice outcome but if we were to restart the season and go on a 5 game losing streak I can't predict how insane my meltdown would be.

If teams don't want to play and it's only promotion to go for then end it now and award it on PPG.

I would be furious if the Championship and PL carried on and sorted themselves but L1 & L2 was just voided.

Sounds mental for that to happen but I can just see us getting shafted. I have very little faith in the football authorities.
 

Brylowes

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I would be furious if the Championship and PL carried on and sorted themselves but L1 & L2 was just voided.

Sounds mental for that to happen but I can just see us getting shafted. I have very little faith in the football authorities.
Of all the possible different outcomes to this mess ‘this would be the absolute worst to take.
 

bradwellskyblues

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Don’t think it will happen as the EFL are very strong on prem clubs who don’t want relegation so they can hardly say no relegation from championship
 

MusicDating

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At this point in time I would certainly take promotion and the season being ended. Obviously that hasn't been my first choice outcome but if we were to restart the season and go on a 5 game losing streak I can't predict how insane my meltdown would be.

If teams don't want to play and it's only promotion to go for then end it now and award it on PPG.

I would be furious if the Championship and PL carried on and sorted themselves but L1 & L2 was just voided.

Sounds mental for that to happen but I can just see us getting shafted. I have very little faith in the football authorities.
Not sure how accurate Transfermarkt is but take Blackpool Blackpool FC - Contracts expiring in 2020
A number out of contract on 31/5. Imagine if we lost to them before then but Pompey beat their kids 5-0 on the final day to pip us to promotion...

One hopes that Boddy is shrewd enough to have Parry's ear to secure a mutually convenient vote...
 

Happy_Martian

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I would like to see the top eschelons still use the pyramid system of promotion and relegation. This is what ties the sport together with the grassroots.

Having teams in a division not being relegated just seems so protectionist.

It doesn't just seem it, it is it. The only league wanting to avoid relegation is the Prem as it's all down to the money. As for the EFL, the Prem doesn't care about what happens below. They're not looking for feeder clubs (maybe Norwich and us are the exception), they're looking for the next best thing abroad and while they have the TV money coming in, they have the means to do so.
 

Happy_Martian

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At this point in time I would certainly take promotion and the season being ended. Obviously that hasn't been my first choice outcome but if we were to restart the season and go on a 5 game losing streak I can't predict how insane my meltdown would be.

If teams don't want to play and it's only promotion to go for then end it now and award it on PPG.

How many go up though ? 1, 2 or 3 ? As has already been said, if it were down to PPG, Wycombe would slide into 3rd over Oxford, who would then have a valid reason to complain.

There are many arguments against all possible solutions but very few positive comments about any of them. We'll probably still be arguing about it in December.

Though with the Govt to make an announcement about reducing Lockdown on Sunday, that may tilt some minds one way or another.
 

Danceswithhorses

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sorry to urinate on your chips but I said this in the first week of Feb which started the biggest thread in the history of SBT ... just saying like
But SBT's self-professed genius, Skyblue Snowflake, said that he exclusively revealed that last week ?
Could SS be wrong ?
The pseudo intellectual always craves attention.
 

Magwitch

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If it is decided not to finish leagues one and two, I assume it’s as much to do with behind closed doors as anything else but next season is likely to be BCD as far as into 2021 so if they don’t do points per game ratio then when it is deemed safe to re-start then this current season re-starts, finishes and the new next season starts and that could be well into the Autumn or even after Xmas and as said earlier likely to be BCD this bollox about contracts ending in June so what, shits going to happen all over the country and in all industries footballs no different, just ask the 12000 British Airways workers or 8000 Rolls Royce potentially losing their jobs soon the same and that’s just the start what they think.
 
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Skybluefaz

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If it is decided not to finish leagues one and two, I assume it’s as much to do with behind closed doors as anything else but next season is likely to be BCD as far as into 2021 so if they don’t do points per game ratio then when it is deemed safe to re-start then this current season re-starts, finishes and the new next season starts and that could be well into the Autumn or even after Xmas and as said earlier likely to be BCD this bollox about contracts ending in June so what, shits going to happen all over the country and in all industries footballs no different, just ask the 12000 British Airways workers or 8000 Rolls Royce potentially losing their jobs soon the same and that’s just the start what they think.
Alright Hancock.
 

Frank Sidebottom

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Can someone explain to me in the scenario of no relegation why there would be more teams in any league other than the premier league?
If they promote 3 teams to the Premier league and don't relegate the PL will have 23 teams. If each subsequent league promotes but then does not relegate they will then each have 24.
IE Top 3 of championship promoted to PL
leaves 21 teams in Championship if no relegation from Championship.
So League 1 promotes 3 teams to replace them.
League one then has 20 teams left in it (no Bury remember) so League 2 promotes 4 teams to take that up to 24. Leaving League 2 with 20 teams (plus whatever the National league decides to do.
The following season the PL, Championship and League 1 all relegate 6 teams and promote 3 as usual to get the leagues back to their original number.

Can't see it happening myself. I think the Premier league need to give their clubs 2 options, Finish the season now on PPG or go with the Neutral venues option. There is no point in finishing the PL season without the threat of relegation.

Our season is done, Just as case of waiting to see whether we're going to get fucked over or not.
For me the PL has to finish to avoid paying back the TV money.... and possibly the Championship too.
Either way I think the various leagues will be drafting laws to cover this kind of thing in future. Can't believe there doesn't seem to be a 'The EFLs decision is final' rule or words to that effect.
 

skyblueeyesrevisited

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If they promote 3 teams to the Premier league and don't relegate the PL will have 23 teams. If each subsequent league promotes but then does not relegate they will then each have 24.
IE Top 3 of championship promoted to PL
leaves 21 teams in Championship if no relegation from Championship.
So League 1 promotes 3 teams to replace them.
League one then has 20 teams left in it (no Bury remember) so League 2 promotes 4 teams to take that up to 24. Leaving League 2 with 20 teams (plus whatever the National league decides to do.
The following season the PL, Championship and League 1 all relegate 6 teams and promote 3 as usual to get the leagues back to their original number.

Can't see it happening myself. I think the Premier league need to give their clubs 2 options, Finish the season now on PPG or go with the Neutral venues option. There is no point in finishing the PL season without the threat of relegation.

Our season is done, Just as case of waiting to see whether we're going to get fucked over or not.
For me the PL has to finish to avoid paying back the TV money.... and possibly the Championship too.
Either way I think the various leagues will be drafting laws to cover this kind of thing in future. Can't believe there doesn't seem to be a 'The EFLs decision is final' rule or words to that effect.
Or
‘The EFLs decision is final providing it is OK with the Premier League and Sky Sports’
 

Magwitch

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The EFL is what is known as a competition as is any other league the ruling body is the FA so decisions the EFL come up with would be ratified by the FA and any appeals would go to the FA. We are in strange times but with regards to promotion and relegation I can’t see there will be different decisions for the championship to leagues one and two.
 

Flying Fokker

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The EFL is what is known as a competition as is any other league the ruling body is the FA so decisions the EFL come up with would be ratified by the FA and any appeals would go to the FA. We are in strange times but with regards to promotion and relegation I can’t see there will be different decisions for the championship to leagues one and two.
As with the PL. the FA decides how seasons finish
 

Philosorapter

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get hancock to present the philosorapter slides at the next 5pm briefing........

"next slide please....as you can see here, transport use is down, and Coventry should be awarded the League One title"

That is funnier than can be imagined. I did prepare something. If in case of emergency break glass. :D

Copy of The League
 

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