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The coventrian

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Do you know why fixed term contract staff aren’t being furloughed at jlr?
I'm still waiting to see if I'm on it or not. Had an email yesterday saying we'd be notified in the next couple of weeks. I think the main reason is theres gonna be no production for quite a while. They were due to start building again on the 20th of April but that been put back a few weeks now according to the email yesterday I think cashflow is a major problem. I'm not really clued up on how it all works tbh. I just wanna get back to work.
 

Johnnythespider

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Do you mean contracted or permanent staff?
If it's anything like my place they will just terminate anyone in a temporary contract
Edit - They released all agency staff and company temporary contract workers before furloughing the rest of us
 

The coventrian

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If it's anything like my place they will just terminate anyone in a temporary contract
Edit - They released all agency staff and company temporary contract workers before furloughing the rest of us
They wont really want to get rid of anyone at our place as once this shit is over itll be full steam ahead. There's no point in letting people go only to take new people on in a few weeks and train them up etc.
 

The coventrian

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Sorry I meant contractor. Not sure where but think he’s been there a few years
A lot of agency were due to get proper contracts this year. They now have to be with the company 5 years to get a contract(which I dont agree with). We had a big meeting a couple of months ago and they were told they were being let go. They never said when though. I guess with what's going on the company have just decided to release them now maybe? Pretty shitty way to treat people. Your promised a contract after 5 years then when your approaching your 5 year your told your not getting one. I wouldn't wanna be a young un these days starting out.
Edit. That's if this includes your brother in law of course. I'm not sure if there agency at other sites.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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He was a Project Engineer Contractor in 'Pneumatics SME for Seat Features' at JLR on a yearly contract. JLR terninated all contractors on Thursday

So that fits in with what you guys were saying
 

Ring Of Steel

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He was a Project Engineer Contractor in 'Pneumatics SME for Seat Features' at JLR on a yearly contract. JLR terninated all contractors on Thursday

So that fits in with what you guys were saying
Makes no sense to retain contractors unfortunately. The only positive thing for them is that the IR35 changes were put back, deferring that particular nightmare for a while.
 

fernandopartridge

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I know there are plenty who hate the idea of translators working in public services but this is a very valid point:


And in pockets of Muslim communities, there is mistrust – or simple unawareness – of government advice. The official NHS website on the coronavirus, which has been prominently plugged during the prime minister’s daily press conferences, is available only in English.

This leaves many minorities whose English is not proficient enough to fully understand medical terms like “quarantine” and “pandemic” reliant on foreign or social media sources for their information
 

Johnnythespider

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They wont really want to get rid of anyone at our place as once this shit is over itll be full steam ahead. There's no point in letting people go only to take new people on in a few weeks and train them up etc.
I agree in regard to training, but I'm not sure the furlough scheme covers non permanent employee's, also they will probably be offered the chance to return when things get going again, it's not like there is much for term to move onto in the meantime
 

Ring Of Steel

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5 and a half years in the role

yeah I know, it’s shit, and I am not saying it’s fair one iota, but in this situation what are the options

The govt have had their eye on contractors for ages, the support stopping at 50k is their way of saying to bigger contractors “we know you’ve been avoiding tax for a long time, we’re gonna have to delay IR35, but you aren’t gonna have anything more from us”. Again, not saying it’s right but it’s a fact.
 

Magwitch

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Do you think the same for churches? Gurdwaras?
Or Cheltenham races ?
A lot of agency were due to get proper contracts this year. They now have to be with the company 5 years to get a contract(which I dont agree with). We had a big meeting a couple of months ago and they were told they were being let go. They never said when though. I guess with what's going on the company have just decided to release them now maybe? Pretty shitty way to treat people. Your promised a contract after 5 years then when your approaching your 5 year your told your not getting one. I wouldn't wanna be a young un these days starting out.
Edit. That's if this includes your brother in law of course. I'm not sure if there agency at other sites.
Hopefully one thing that comes out of all this is this hire them then fire them mentality by companies who’s management making these decisions should probably be first out of the door.
 

Ring Of Steel

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I agree in regard to training, but I'm not sure the furlough scheme covers non permanent employee's, also they will probably be offered the chance to return when things get going again, it's not like there is much for term to move onto in the meantime

The scheme covers anyone paying PAYE. But what will usually happen is agency, temps, contractors will just be stopped immediately.
 

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