Trump is here (2 Viewers)

[Grendel]

Fake news

One European country alone has a salmonella outbreak that impacted guess how many people Pete?

 

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[Gazolba]

So these Anti-Trump protesters, what are they actually protesting against?

Mostly it seems to be against things he says.
What they need to realise is that freedom of speech is one of the most important US rights, and is enshrined in the US constitution.

 

[Cov City Daytrader 87]

In what way is Trump a bigger racist Ian?

Give me evidence.

 

[Johnnythespider]

Mostly it seems to be against things he says.
What they need to realise is that freedom of speech is one of the most important US rights, and is enshrined in the US constitution.

So we should just agree with things he says because of free speech

 

[Grendel]

So we should just agree with things he says because of free speech

No disagree but engage.

 

[Ian1779]

In what way is Trump a bigger racist Ian?

Give me evidence.

Ban on flying from what he classed as ‘Muslim’ countries.
His attitudes towards immigrants in the US (despite his own family line being immigrants)
His support of Israeli policy to eliminate Palestine.

 

[Sick Boy]

Trump is a fucking moron. He claims fake news when he get caught out even though there’s recorded evidence of him saying stuff. I can’t believe anyone in this country actually takes him seriously and cannot see that he views the UK and our position as something to exploit for America’s gain.

 

[Johnnythespider]

No disagree but engage.

Isn't protest the only way the general public can engage with politicians, I'm sure there will be plenty waving the stars and stripes as well. What of Boris, he made a very damming comment about Trump not being fit for the job, should he have held his tongue so as not to look hypocritical when it's lodged in Trumps backside.

 

[Cov City Daytrader 87]

His attitudes towards immigrants in the US (despite his own family line being immigrants)
His support of Israeli policy to eliminate Palestine.

Expand more about his attitude towards immigrants in the U.S.

 

[chiefdave]

We need the US as our ally. Do you not think it rather strange that Mr Corbyn has no issue with meeting terrorists who want to murder uk citizens and also rather unsavoury characters like Hamas and vile regimes like the Chavez dynasty yet as leader of the opposition boycotts the democratically elected leader of the most powerful western country in the world? Why just to get a few likes from some juvenile comrades?

Personally I don't think Corbyn has the slightest chance of ever becoming PM so don't believe him refusing to attend will have the slightest impact on our relationship with the US.

Similarly as I have no intention of voting for him I'm not really too concerned about who he was meeting with years ago. My bigger concern is who our current PM meets with, not to mention the Tory leadership candidates.

Are you really that concerned that Corbyn will become PM that this is a genuine issue for you?

 

[clint van damme]

What about corbyns mate you didn’t answer that?

Which mate and what did he say?

 

[NorthernWisdom]

LOL, pretending you're bothered about antisemitism

Personally I find it delightful that there appears to be an outbreak of liberalism, an acceptance that all faiths should be embraced, and that people are allowed to worship whatever faith they like without prejudice.

I look forward to seeing more of that on some if the other threads that crop up around here from time to time...

 

[clint van damme]

The stat is irrelevant. It’s highly subjective

The issue is that Corbyn is an anti Semite of that I have no doubt. It’s ideological but it’s a fact. He worshipped Livingstone in the 80’s who is a known hater of the Jewish population.

This has never been an issue with labour until the hard left took it over now as they did in the 80’s. Jews are seen as the antithesis of socialism and a clear and present danger to socialism

Is the labour hierarchy more racist than the Tory hierarchy? I believe it is. It’s certainly more anti Semite and if they can’t win the equality battle then what can they win?

Not true that there wasn't a problem there were a multitude of complaints under Blair and there was even the case of the holocaust survivor getting kicked out of the conference by Blair's goons

The problem Labour has is there are those on one side screwaming anti semitism where there is none and those on the other side who can't help following up a genuine criticism of Israel without adding an anti Semitic comment so there's definitely issues

Labour should never have adopted the IHRA guidelines on antisemitism, it should never be considered bigoted to criticise a nations domestic and foreign policy. Guidelines which I may add would class many of the remarks made on here about George Soros as antisemitic.

No way Corbyn is an antisemite, he's stood against all forms of discrimination too many times.
Any MP that's cosied up to Viktor Orban however.........

 

[Sick Boy]

So despite voting for a party who put forward a hard left candidate who has voiced sympathy towards the IRA and people’s right to download child porn, these people are still going on about Corbyn?

 

[ccfctommy]

Well he’s had no problem selling a book of a certain Sinn Feinn leader in the House of Commons two weeks after a British MP was brutally murdered by the IRA

He was arrested campaigning for the murderer Patrick Magee

Would you have a problem if a Tory MP
Was grinning in the commons lobby two weeks after Joe Coxs murder selling a book by Britain First?

That’s why

He is a protester first and politician second.

 

[skybluetony176]

So despite voting for a party who put forward a hard left candidate who has voiced sympathy towards the IRA and people’s right to download child porn, these people are still going on about Corbyn?

I was talking to a mate earlier who happens to be gay and he’s called his wedding off that he and his partner had planned for next year off the back of the news from Professor Widdecombe that there’s a cure on its way.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

Apparently the industry in America with the highest percentage of amputations is the the poultry industry. Looks like it’s not just the practice of washing the chicken that is responsible for America recording 100’s of deaths each year to salmonella poisoning (for reference the U.K. poultry industry recorded zero deaths due to salmonella poisoning last year) its their practices after the washing. Totally different standards at every stage. No thanks.

But how many go to the US for a holiday or on business and happily eat their chlorine-washed chicken & similar???

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[SkyblueBazza]

So we should just agree with things he says because of free speech

No we shouldn't - but trying to punish him because of what he says is an attempt to stop him speaking freely isn't it?

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[fellatio_Martinez]

Chlorine washed chicken is not the way to go because it impacts on animal welfare and hygiene standards from the start to end of the process.

Chickens can live in shit and be carted off in filthy lorries because the producers know that they'll get bleached at the end of the process which renders them "clean" by U.S standards.

This is the same country that classes pizza as a vegetable and won't label sugar content on food labels because the government have been paid off by coca cola. So fuck them and their manky birds.

 

[westcountry_skyblue]

Which mate and what did he say?

That guy with the glasses can’t remember his name

 

[skyblue1991]

I may be in the minority here but I would love to have someone like Trump at Prime Minister.

He certainly wouldn't take any shit from the EU and it a lot less spineless than Corbyn, Khan, May et al.

Closest we have is Farage

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[Sick Boy]

Chlorine washed chicken is not the way to go because it impacts on animal welfare and hygiene standards from the start to end of the process.

Chickens can live in shit and be carted off in filthy lorries because the producers know that they'll get bleached at the end of the process which renders them "clean" by U.S standards.

This is the same country that classes pizza as a vegetable and won't label sugar content on food labels because the government have been paid off by coca cola. So fuck them and their manky birds.

Their health and levels of obesity are shocking, the UK doesn’t need any more of that imported. It makes me laugh how some go on about the EU and British identity, when British identity has become so Americanised with the important of their dumbed down culture.

 

[SBAndy]

I may be in the minority here but I would love to have someone like Trump at Prime Minister.

He certainly wouldn't take any shit from the EU and it a lot less spineless than Corbyn, Khan, May et al.

Closest we have is Farage

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No thanks.

 

[Sick Boy]

I may be in the minority here but I would love to have someone like Trump at Prime Minister.

He certainly wouldn't take any shit from the EU and it a lot less spineless than Corbyn, Khan, May et al.

Closest we have is Farage

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Yeah great idea, let’s have a leader who openly lies and creates a climate where those reporting the lies are discredited.

And that’s not even starting on actual policies...

And Farage? Haha the same man with backbone who abandoned his own march down the country after a day and joined to lead it at the end haha how gullible can you get?

 

[SBAndy]

Yeah great idea, let’s have a leader who openly lies and creates a climate where those reporting the lies are discredited.

And that’s not even starting on actual policies...

And Farage? Haha the same man with backbone who abandoned his own march down the country after a day and joined to lead it at the end haha how gullible can you get?

When will people start realising Trump isn’t a maverick, he’s just a c**t.

 

[Sick Boy]

When will people start realising Trump isn’t a maverick, he’s just a c**t.

Probably when it’s too late.

 

[clint van damme]

That guy with the glasses can’t remember his name

you're not giving me much to go on!

 

[fernandopartridge]

I may be in the minority here but I would love to have someone like Trump at Prime Minister.

He certainly wouldn't take any shit from the EU and it a lot less spineless than Corbyn, Khan, May et al.

Closest we have is Farage

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We've had no "shit from the EU" we've just been completely unprepared / unrealistic about what the reality is. It's all simple soundbites rather than a coherent evidence-based strategy, Farage is the same, not a shred of detail just a load of empty soundbites.

 

[westcountry_skyblue]

you're not giving me much to go on!

you're not giving me much to go on!

Pete willsman? I think

 

[clint van damme]

Pete willsman? I think

well Wilsman has a history of antisemitism and is one of the ones I referred to who cant make a valid criticism of Israel without throwing a snidey racist slur in behind it.

However, you also can't say his comments about the Israeli embassy being behind the antisemitism accusations are totally unfounded, do you remember the Joanna Ryan video where she was being offered bribes to 'destroy Corbyn' by Israeli officials?

 

[Johnnythespider]

well Wilsman has a history of antisemitism and is one of the ones I referred to who cant make a valid criticism of Israel without throwing a snidey racist slur in behind it.

However, you also can't say his comments about the Israeli embassy being behind the antisemitism accusations are totally unfounded, do you remember the Joanna Ryan video where she was being offered bribes to 'destroy Corbyn' by Israeli officials?

Do you mean this one

 

[clint van damme]

Do you mean this one

to quote Blackadder, "that's the baby".

 

[Ian1779]

Do you mean this one

They were also looking at taking down Tory ministers that were sympathetic to Palestine as well as Corbyn and other Labour targets.

 

[djr8369]

You mean he is not listening to, or sympathising with the noisey minority?

Most of our society values our links with the US & will show upmost respect to the position of US President (whoever that happens to be)! So maybe it is you that is out of touch with the true pulse of society?

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Trump has a 21% approval rating in the U.K. You are the noisy minority.


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[clint van damme]

The difference is he’s extremely wealthy. The likes of Corbyn, McDonnell etc instinctively despise anyone who’s made a fortune.

if he craves wealth why didn't Corbyn rinse his expenses like nearly every other MP? Easy money.