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David O'Day

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If it was my job to represent fans i'd be putting in foi requests in to GMP, Merseyside Police, WMP themselves to get arrest figures on the big games them have. You could likely build a case that the current segregation is a potential cause of trouble. "No mans lands" encourage bad behaviour it seems.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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If it was my job to represent fans i'd be putting in foi requests in to GMP, Merseyside Police, WMP themselves to get arrest figures on the big games them have. You could likely build a case that the current segregation is a potential cause of trouble. "No mans lands" encourage bad behaviour it seems.
It’s not my job
Do it and share it
I haven’t got time to do that I’m afraid
 

David O'Day

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Are you one of them then ? Do two wrongs make it right it gives SAG a decision to make.
That is not the reason for the decision to close 13 and limit 14 and 15.

It was the overcrowding last year caused by people moving over when they had tickets in other blocks.

An issue that has been stopped this year by proper stewarding.
 

clint van damme

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Are you one of them then ? Do two wrongs make it right it gives SAG a decision to make.

One of them what? What are you on about?
And it's not about 2 wrongs making a right, it's about dealing with issues in an appropriate manner, which isn't happening in our case.
 

David O'Day

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Since when did speaking up about issues that the club is facing include in scope influencing the club or owners to change safety decisions?
No, you are a representative on a fans forum so the job spec includes asking questions that effect the fans who use this forum. These issues include the substandard policing and the strange actions of the SAG.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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No, you said you had results. People (not just myself) have asked what these are as they can't see anything that has been changed
None of it is causal David it’s all part of the bigger whole
If I say what I feel I’ve achieved people will just think I’m showing off or making stuff up
There’s a lot I’m proud of for sticking up for this forum and our fan base
 

David O'Day

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None of it is causal David it’s all part of the bigger whole
If I say what I feel I’ve achieved people will just think I’m showing off or making stuff up
There’s a lot I’m proud of for sticking up for this forum and our fan base
What have you got changed? You represent me on that forum so I am asking you to please advise me on what you have got changed? We can't see anything that has changed.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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No, you are a representative on a fans forum so the job spec includes asking questions that effect the fans who use this forum. These issues include the substandard policing and the strange actions of the SAG.
There is no job spec and the notes of the forums will show that these decisions have always been challenged
I’m sure a majority of our fan base know what I’ve done and what I do and are pleased we have a voice
As I’ve said many times no one voted for me to do what I’ve done and am doing
Im vice chair of the supporters forum because I show up I express my opinions I speak up for our fans time and time again and I have the respect of many many people at ccfc wasps council directors and supporters
You can throw shit all you like
I’m proud of what I’ve done
 

Sky Blue Pete

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What have you got changed? You represent me on that forum so I am asking you to please advise me on what you have got changed? We can't see anything that has changed.
Seriously what is your problem
You are this exercised by ccfc deciding to withdraw sales of tickets on blocks 2 and 3
I genuinely hope something really shit doesn’t happen to you. I’d fear for your safety
 

David O'Day

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Seriously what is your problem
You are this exercised by ccfc deciding to withdraw sales of tickets on blocks 2 and 3
I genuinely hope something really shit doesn’t happen to you. I’d fear for your safety
Why is it a problem to you that I am asking what you have achieved in you role as a representative of me?

Why so defensive? It's a legitimate question Pete, one you should be happy to answer.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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What have you got changed? You represent me on that forum so I am asking you to please advise me on what you have got changed? We can't see anything that has changed.
Media perception of our move to Birmingham
Got a discussion with joy
Brought parties together ultimately ending up in city playing back at Ricoh
Built strong working relationships with all parties that affect our club
Ceo ccfc
Owner ccfc
Wasps owner
Council
Local media connections observer Simon Gilbert cwr
Enabled our forum to be accepted as one of the supporters groups at ccfc forums
drafted agenda for supporters forums from asking everyone on here for their concerns
Took on the vice chair role to ensure that agreed notes were available to the media and all parties from supporters forums
A whole host of small decisions made to support individuals accessing various opportunities or raising questions with hom Tynan and Dave B
Our forum is one of the most respected supporters groups of the ccfc forum
People at the club and around the club listen to me when I make suggestions or suggest initiatives
 

David O'Day

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There is no job spec and the notes of the forums will show that these decisions have always been challenged
I’m sure a majority of our fan base know what I’ve done and what I do and are pleased we have a voice
As I’ve said many times no one voted for me to do what I’ve done and am doing
Im vice chair of the supporters forum because I show up I express my opinions I speak up for our fans time and time again and I have the respect of many many people at ccfc wasps council directors and supporters
You can throw shit all you like
I’m proud of what I’ve done
The answer answer a simple and appropriate question and stop being defensive.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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And your expertise is? I don’t know as I haven’t spent my life managing large events of people
You?
If our SAG has carried out proper research that shows that they have a better way of crowd management than (pretty much) every other club in the country, then I’m sure we’d all be interested to see it.

Presumably, all those other clubs that don’t currently see a need to keep massive empty spaces between fans will then all fall in line and mend their ways.
 

David O'Day

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Media perception of our move to Birmingham
Got a discussion with joy
Brought parties together ultimately ending up in city playing back at Ricoh
Built strong working relationships with all parties that affect our club
Ceo ccfc
Owner ccfc
Wasps owner
Council
Local media connections observer Simon Gilbert cwr
Enabled our forum to be accepted as one of the supporters groups at ccfc forums
drafted agenda for supporters forums from asking everyone on here for their concerns
Took on the vice chair role to ensure that agreed notes were available to the media and all parties from supporters forums
A whole host of small decisions made to support individuals accessing various opportunities or raising questions with hom Tynan and Dave B
Our forum is one of the most respected supporters groups of the ccfc forum
So you're good at admin then.

What have you actually achieved. There is nothing there that makes it better for the vast majority of people who are have their match experience ruined by the SAG and their awful decisions.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Media perception of our move to Birmingham
Got a discussion with joy
Brought parties together ultimately ending up in city playing back at Ricoh
Built strong working relationships with all parties that affect our club
Ceo ccfc
Owner ccfc
Wasps owner
Council
Local media connections observer Simon Gilbert cwr
Enabled our forum to be accepted as one of the supporters groups at ccfc forums
drafted agenda for supporters forums from asking everyone on here for their concerns
Took on the vice chair role to ensure that agreed notes were available to the media and all parties from supporters forums
A whole host of small decisions made to support individuals accessing various opportunities or raising questions with hom Tynan and Dave B
Our forum is one of the most respected supporters groups of the ccfc forum
So your good at admin then.

What have you actually achieved
Up yours
 

Sky Blue Pete

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So you're good at admin then.

What have you actually achieved. There is nothing there that makes it better for the vast majority of people who are have their match experience ruined by the SAG and their awful decisions.
You’re serious aren’t you. Fair enough
What have you achieved?
 

David O'Day

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Really, is that how you reply to appropriate questioning on your role as a representative of this forum?

For the vast majority of people on here there as been no improvement in match experience and in lots of cases a regression in matchday experience. Yet you firstly come one here attacking people who questioned the decision, telling people they shouldn't care as we are winning games, bragging about your achievements and then throwing a hissy fit when people asked what those were.

You started this by being pretty shitty to people who questioned why it was happening.

Grow up
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Really, is that how you reply to appropriate questioning on your role as a representative of this forum?

For the vast majority of people on here there as been no improvement in match experience and in lots of cases a regression in matchday experience. Yet you firstly come one here attacking people who questioned the decision, telling people they shouldn't care as we are winning games, bragging about your achievements and then throwing a hissy fit when people asked what those were.

You started this by being pretty shitty to people who questioned why it was happening.

Grow up
I knew you’d say bragging lol
You’re the worst sort of say lots do nothing man
Phone Boddy
Do something stop whinging
You could have done all that and more you would have single handedly resolved all the issues with just one cleverly worded rant
Do it
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Is this true?! Genuine question.
Why would I make anything up
What difference I made I couldn’t tell you but I have friends I never thought I’d possibly have From picking up the phone and trying to influence people to do the right thing
Dod would have done it in one day
 

David O'Day

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I knew you’d say bragging lol
You’re the worst sort of say lots do nothing man
Phone Boddy
Do something stop whinging
You could have done all that and more you would have single handedly resolved all the issues with just one cleverly worded rant
Do it
What have you changed about the SAG and their long list of overreactions and the decreasing fan experience?

It is legitimate to question someone who is meant to represent you, especially when they are seemingly defending what seems to be a massive overreaction.

Why so touchy, we are allowed to question those who represent us. It's part of your role.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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D
What have you changed about the SAG and their long list of overreactions and the decreasing fan experience?

It is legitimate to question someone who is meant to represent you, especially when they are seemingly defending what seems to be a massive overreaction.

Why so touchy, we are allowed to question those who represent us. It's part of your role.
Cause you’re an arse
I’m not on the sag what influence do you think I have
 

David O'Day

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D

Cause you’re an arse
I’m not on the sag what influence do you think I have
But you can question them as part of the forum.

Is there a rule that you are not allowed to question decisions that the SAG has made?

Genuinely what you are saying reads like you can't question SAG decisions at the forum?
 

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