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italiahorse

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #36
clint van damme said:
We all know our owners are shite but in this particular case I can't see what other option they had if Bradford offered to double his money.
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Say no as he's under contract or at least stick out for a reasonable offer if he is worth twice the wages.
It appears to me that we just grab the first offer and have no real back up when they go.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #37
italiahorse said:
Say no as he's under contract or at least stick out for a reasonable offer if he is worth twice the wages.
It appears to me that we just grab the first offer and have no real back up when they go.
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How do you know it wasn't reasonable?
 

italiahorse

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #38
Nick said:
How do you know it wasn't reasonable?
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An educated guess, based on past experience over the past 7 years.
Specifically, he was in Austria so was in TM plans up until a few days ago.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #39
italiahorse said:
An educated guess, based on past experience over the past 7 years.
Specifically, he was in Austria so was in TM plans up until a few days ago.
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So you don't know then.
 

ccfctommy

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #40
80 grand we gothink apparently. How are we going to strengthen the squad with 80 grand?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #41
ccfctommy said:
80 grand we gothink apparently. How are we going to strengthen the squad with 80 grand?
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How much did we allegedly pay for him?
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #42
ccfctommy said:
80 grand we gothink apparently. How are we going to strengthen the squad with 80 grand?
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Where did you get the figure 80 grand from?

Oh and you know what 'apparently' means right?

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ccfctommy

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #43
Grendel said:
How much did we allegedly pay for him?
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50 grand.

We sold him for less that 6 figures. 80 grand is the figure banded about.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #44
ccfctommy said:
50 grand.

We sold him for less that 6 figures. 80 grand is the figure banded about.
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Given he was garbage after Christmas to make a profit on a 30 year old is pretty good.

The league is littered with players like him.

He can be replaced.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #45
RFC said:
I no longer get upset about players moving on it happened before the great Jimmy Hill came and made us Sky Blues, transforming us from the Bantams.

During his reign we sold many favourites including the 'Hud' & Terry Bly. So this has been going on for more than 50 years and you have to accept like the vast majority (even in the Premeirship) we're a selling club. That's how you finance deals and change the squad to improve, hopefully.

By the way our owners are no different to most others and the criticism they get on this site is unjustified and I'd add even if and when new owners come along the same people will still be 'moaning and groaning'.

True fans are around for a lifetime while owners, managers & players ALL move on.

In Mowbray I trust!
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Yes the club has always sold players, but the Quality of players the club are signing now and for the last ten years will only mean one thing in my opinion. My Sky Blues are slowly DYING under SISU and there won't be a football club to buy.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #46
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Yes the club has always sold players, but the Quality of players the club are signing now and for the last ten years will only mean one thing in my opinion. My Sky Blues are slowly DYING under SISU and there won't be a football club to buy.
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Is that along the pattern of players coming in being shit, but anybody we sell, let go or moves on being a world beater?

Same as how Leon Clarke was shit because he came on a free.
 

steve82

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #47
Grendel said:
How much did we allegedly pay for him?
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ccfctommy said:
50 grand.

We sold him for less that 6 figures. 80 grand is the figure banded about.
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I seen on transfermarkt website we paid 29k for him but I've seen no figures for what Bradford paid.
 

italiahorse

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #48
Grendel said:
So you don't know then.
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No, you don't know.
So you would take someone to Austria and play him in a team preparing for the new season, yet he was not in your plans for the team?
Pre season is currently pointless, so if we actually do get the players in, the first game they play together will be a league game.
We are not giving ourselves a chance and even TM will struggle to pull this one out the bag.
Keep on justifying our unprofessional owners off and on the field. You really are a joke on here.
 

Sterling Archer

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #49
The complete overreaction to this transfer is unbelievable. I do pray its just a minority of our fans who feel like this, in fact I hope these posts are just your typical internet keyboard melodramatic hyperbole, otherwise I worry for people's sanity.
 
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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #50
Sterling Archer said:
The complete overreaction to this transfer is unbelievable. I do pray its just a minority of our fans who feel like this, in fact I hope these posts are just your typical internet keyboard melodramatic hyperbole, otherwise I worry for people's sanity.
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Your happy that we are missing several key players less than 2 weeks before the season starts ?
I can't remember a season starting so unprepared ......... ever.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #51
italiahorse said:
No, you don't know.
So you would take someone to Austria and play him in a team preparing for the new season, yet he was not in your plans for the team?
Pre season is currently pointless, so if we actually do get the players in, the first game they play together will be a league game.
We are not giving ourselves a chance and even TM will struggle to pull this one out the bag.
Keep on justifying our unprofessional owners off and on the field. You really are a joke on here.
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You're talking an awful lot of nonsense here.

No one said he wasn't in TM's plans. What are we supposed to do, leave any player at home that we think we might get a bid for ffs?

Of course pre season isn't pointless. Don't be stupid.

Armstrong didn't sign until late in pre-season last year. Murphy didn't even join until after the first game (or two).

Can't believe the overreaction to this sale. It's a 30 year old Romain Vincelot. It's not Keiren Westwood, Scott Dann, James Maddison etc.

Calm down.
 
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Moff

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #52
italiahorse said:
Your happy that we are missing several key players less than 2 weeks before the season starts ?
I can't remember a season starting so unprepared ......... ever.
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I thought you had been a fan for years, if so you might recall 1983 the first spell under Gould, when the whole team left after Sextons sacking. We were far more underprepared then.

I am prepared, like last season, to give Mowbray the chance to forge his team and squad. I don't recall anyone moaning that he left it late to secure Armstrong last season.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #53
PVA said:
You're talking an awful lot of nonsense here.

No one said he wasn't in TM's plans. What are we supposed to do, leave any player at home that we think we might get a bid for ffs?

Of course pre season isn't pointless. Don't be stupid.

Armstrong didn't sign until late in pre-season last year. Murphy didn't even join until after the first game (or two).

Can't believe the overreaction to this sale. It's a 30 year old Romain Vincelot. It's not Keiren Westwood, Scott Dann, James Maddison etc.

Calm down.
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So he was in the plans and then got sold at this late stage ?
Either way its poor.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #54
Moff said:
I thought you had been a fan for years, if so you might recall 1983 the first spell under Gould, when the whole team left after Sextons sacking. We were far more underprepared then.

I am prepared, like last season, to give Mowbray the chance to forge his team and squad. I don't recall anyone moaning that he left it late to secure Armstrong last season.
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Or Murphy
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #55
Moff said:
I thought you had been a fan for years, if so you might recall 1983 the first spell under Gould, when the whole team left after Sextons sacking. We were far more underprepared then.

I am prepared, like last season, to give Mowbray the chance to forge his team and squad. I don't recall anyone moaning that he left it late to secure Armstrong last season.
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Hes not after a couple of players though he's after several.......... hopefully ?
1983 in the top division and survived. I can dream of that
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #56
italiahorse said:
So he was in the plans and then got sold at this late stage ?
Either way its poor.
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Oh come on mate, you know how football works. Just because someone is in the plans of the manager doesn't mean he can't or shouldn't be sold.
 
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Moff

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #57
italiahorse said:
Hes not after a couple of players though he's after several.......... hopefully ?
1983 in the top division and survived. I can dream of that
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A couple is better than a whole team as in 83

I shudder to recall Ashley Grimes, Raddy Avramovic, Andy Spring and Graham Withey. To think we won the cup four years later...happier days!
 

Brylowes

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  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #58
italiahorse said:
Your happy that we are missing several key players less than 2 weeks before the season starts ?
I can't remember a season starting so unprepared ......... ever.
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We are where we are.

So that's ok then.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2016
  • #59
Making judgement now is ridiculous. There's time to being in players before the season starts and the transfer window doesn't close until the end of August.

Personally I would have kept Martin, JOB and Vincelot but saying that they were key players in a team that failed to reach the play offs last year. There's no doubt Martin and JOB leaving was down to Mowbray and it sounds like he is OK with Vincelot and may even have made the decision himself. Yes we need players in, but the hysterics we're seeing on the forum in the last couple of days is way over the top.
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Jul 25, 2016
  • #60
chiefdave said:
Making judgement now is ridiculous. There's time to being in players before the season starts and the transfer window doesn't close until the end of August.

Personally I would have kept Martin, JOB and Vincelot but saying that they were key players in a team that failed to reach the play offs last year. There's no doubt Martin and JOB leaving was down to Mowbray and it sounds like he is OK with Vincelot and may even have made the decision himself. Yes we need players in, but the hysterics we're seeing on the forum in the last couple of days is way over the top.
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So why is it hysterical?
We care about the team we want to see them succeed, maybe we don't believe our owners care as much as they should.
Heard there are a few coming in but will have to wait and see.
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2016
  • #61
Moff said:
I thought you had been a fan for years, if so you might recall 1983 the first spell under Gould, when the whole team left after Sextons sacking. We were far more underprepared then.

I am prepared, like last season, to give Mowbray the chance to forge his team and squad. I don't recall anyone moaning that he left it late to secure Armstrong last season.
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They sure did.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2016
  • #62
letsallsingtogether said:
So why is it hysterical?
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Talk of refunds and Hitler after selling a player that went off the boil in the latter half of the season are a little bit mad.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2016
  • #63
letsallsingtogether said:
So why is it hysterical?
We care about the team we want to see them succeed, maybe we don't believe our owners care as much as they should.
Heard there are a few coming in but will have to wait and see.
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Ahh, there's that key word again, 'wait!'
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 25, 2016
  • #64
letsallsingtogether said:
So why is it hysterical?
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Off the back of selling one average L1 player we've got people demanding refunds on their season tickets and saying we will be relegated. Seems a bit hysterical to me.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 25, 2016
  • #65
Brylowes said:
We are where we are.

So that's ok then.
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He's talking shite at usual. 3 years ago we had a smaller squad and managed to start the season very well.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2016
  • #66
Vicious circle. Fans won't go, won't buy season tickets then fans moan we have to sell to survive. If we had the attendances that Sheff Utd, Bradford did then maybe we wouldn't have to do it. If you can't be arsed to turn up then you're part of the problem.

This club has always sold players and it always will. It's not a "Coventry City" thing.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2016
  • #67
fernandopartridge said:
He's talking shite at usual. 3 years ago we had a smaller squad and managed to start the season very well.
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The problem is, that it's not how we start its how we finish.
No strength in depth is a continued problem.
Also we continue to be very lightweight in height and build and get bullied in most games particularly when our big defenders get injured.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2016
  • #68
torchomatic said:
Vicious circle. Fans won't go, won't buy season tickets then fans moan we have to sell to survive. If we had the attendances that Sheff Utd, Bradford did then maybe we wouldn't have to do it. If you can't be arsed to turn up then you're part of the problem.

This club has always sold players and it always will. It's not a "Coventry City" thing.
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It's not the sale of players its the timing I'm moaning about.
 

Gazolba

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2016
  • #69
I think I finally get Mowbray's strategy. Since last season we started off brilliantly then finished as a hopeless shambles. This season he is going to try the opposite strategy, we'll start off as a hopeless shambles but finish strongly.
 
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Deleted member 2477

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  • Jul 25, 2016
  • #70
Perhaps if our glorius owners hadnt alienated a large part of our fan base, taken the club to northampton and continually belittled fans via fisher then we could have 20,000 turning up but I think even if we did the money wouldnt go towards the team. 8 years of Sisu and their behaviour towards the fans and their constant bullying tactics has taken its toll.

Some on here have very short memories so just a few reminders of why our owners are killing this club.
The bullying and agression shown to fans using banners to demonstrate their feelings
Taking the club to northampton having no regard for the fans
The constant court battles and bullying tactics to get the ricoh and land cheap has resulted in us now being homeless and living in the wasp nest
The sale of every player worth any value and failing to replace them with the money
the sale/ re mortgage of our training ground leaving us with nothing
The appointment of several idiots to run the club one of which wanted to play football manager for the day
The dismantling of any structure at the club ie the scouting system

Whilst Im not happy with ccc either the biggest blame for our position is this hedgefund who have one thing on their minds and thats asset stripping to pay their share holders and when theres nothing left and they have finaly exhausted their attempts to get the ricoh cheap they will walk away leaving us with nothing
 
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