The alternative is for sisu to crush acl which you advocate and get the stadium on the cheap, which will result in sisu selling the stadium at a big profit without any regard to the club or sell the club and rent the stadium to the club for a large fee of maybe £1.2 million to recoup their investment?
The club has existed for 126 years approx not 3 centuries but you would be the 1st to nitpick over facts and figures to justify yourself
but now strangely quiet in a glass house
The latter.
Good post btw.
Aye, promotion has to be priority. In fact, if it happened to the prem the year after the likelihood of SISU going then would be even greater as they'd probably make their money back.
Given that everybody agrees play offs and promotion doesn't that make the original post a waste of time and not 'good'?
Sky blue taylor you seem very gullible to think that if sisu get their hands on the stadium it will stay in ccfc name. Do you not realize that ccfc existing assets are already under Arvo. So the likelyhood of it staying under ccfc is very slim.
Sky blue taylor you seem very gullible to think that if sisu get their hands on the stadium it will stay in ccfc name. Do you not realize that ccfc existing assets are already under Arvo. So the likelyhood of it staying under ccfc is very slim.
Given that everybody agrees play offs and promotion doesn't that make the original post a waste of time and not 'good'?
SBT £40m additional income is only half the story ....... what about the additional wages and costs that comes with promotion? What about the investment in players to get there in the first place (year after year if it doesnt happen first opportunity)...... Currently owe £47m to SISU what will it be by the time we get promoted from L1 let alone Championship?. What about the annual investment required to stay there? Nothing in previous SISU investments suggests they hang on for the long term ...... let alone very long term as could well be the case in banking on promotion. Have they got that sort of money from their investors to bet on a chance of two quick promotions ? Would their clients gamble that much on what is a slim chance ?
@ Cloughie, and Oldskyblue58
Top posts guys.
Skybluelee..Wrong m8, not everybody agrees with promotion under SISU....SBTaylor...You say Cloughie "Using the 3 centuries against you being weak"..Why say it in the first place!
Everyone has their own opinion on SISU, and mine is "The sooner they've gone the better!":facepalm:
i hope the sky blue coffin is comfy whilst you're watching AFC Cov at the Buttscraigus12..
Some of us have "Values", and who the fuck are you to tell me I'm not a CCFC fan! I probably pay MORE in following CCFC than you could even dream about paying out:jerkit:
@ SBTaylor..
The point is, you were trying to be clever by saying 3 centuries, and when Cloughie pulled you up on it, you tried to make him look a fool.
One more thing.. to "Exist Through" 3 centuries, you have to complete "3 centuries", and when I went to school, that would be 300 years!:facepalm:
Grieves me to say but getting SISU out of our club has to be the priority, apart from their first few months here when they allowed Coleman to sign a few they have put nothing into the team, just sold and sold, the evidence is clear to see.
This makes interesting reading
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/23/premier-league-accounts-profit-debt I think it was Blackpool Birmingham and Wolves that went down - spending 40m on wages doesnt seem to guarantee anything although WBA survived and have prospered since (but read a report that their wage bill is significantly up this season).
But applying those figures to SISU's situation even if CCFC get to the premiership the only way SISU get their money back is going to be based on stadium ownership. So question is do they put more money in, cover losses, buy players and hope to get two promotions in a short time leaving their related investments at probably £60m + then get their money back on the drip by taking money out of CCFC OR do they say enough money spent already and we take our return on the ground OR a mix of both.
My money is still on them cashing in based on getting hold of the RICOH ....... assuming ACL cant fight them off, and ACL might just do that ........ and if ACL do then where does the club go from that ?
If you seriously think we will go flying up the prem with these clowns in charge then Your'e seriously deluded. The highest we finished in the championship with this lot in charge was 17th. We'd be more like peterborough. It takes investment&ambition to get to the prem. Sisu have neither.
If you seriously think we will go flying up the prem with these clowns in charge then Your'e seriously deluded. The highest we finished in the championship with this lot in charge was 17th. We'd be more like peterborough. It takes investment&ambition to get to the prem. Sisu have neither.
I'm not convinced by some of the arguments here. Remember life is a bit of a gamble at times and not for the cautionary tale of an accountants advice. SISU bought in as a gamble to a certain degree. They knew what it was about with Ranson. Its gone a little pear shaped but you can come back from that...look at Southampton, Norwich and before them Manchester City! Its about momentum at the club, the right dynamics in place etc etc. Presently we look to be getting that on track rapidly? Robin's is the ideal man and we compete top end in this league so I would not consider it a slim chance of promotion but a pretty real one within 2 seasons.
Then the momentum could carry that forward to the prem and big pay days. Being in business is about taking risk...logical and risky ones.
SISU's best chance is getting us up through the leagues and see where it takes you. The stadium is a side issue that will come into play later as we gain those promotions and benefit all. They need a deal on it and the council and ACL etc need to help find one. It won't be found in the courts.
SISU know when their backs are to the wall you play hard ball and so would I for my interest. Their interest equates to CCFC interest. There are many ways to skin a cat remember...just one step at a time.
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