Why are people starting to turn on the Council just because some moronic MEP has held a meeting with Joy and discovered absolutely nothing??
Please tell me what you expect the council to do differently?
"Sell the Ricoh to Sisu/CCFC" - Why even bother discussing it when SISU/Joy want it for nothing? Especially not a worthy price to the tax payer!
"They should have accepted the CVA" - Why is that? To accept £590k of taxpayers money? Were the taxpayer not entitled to the £1.3 million rent owed? Is it not right that they are still entitled to a large amount if not all of the £590k?
I have said all along both sides are to blame, the council/ACL are no angels. But by trying to suggest the council should have done more is ridiculous. Just because Joy has had a meeting with an insignificant MEP means nothing. What is the point in meeting with this woman? She is doing nothing. That meeting with Joy discussed the past and nothing of current importance. Surely the council leader has more to worry about than talking about what has already happened?
Agreed, put offer in public domain we are all tax payers after all , very simplePublicly confirm their position and make a better offer to CCfc that if rejected shows up sisu's intentions more clearly or they accept it
Better offer of rent and access to f&b
Unfortunately, in the real world, why should they.
Let's say you had a house and you agreed to rent it to a family for £600 per month. All was going well until the main bread winner lost their job and they expected the rent to drop to £300 because they couldn't afford what was previously agreed.
Now, unless you are up for sainthood, you would tell the family to pay up what was agreed or find somewhere else to live.
Does this sound familiar in any way?
at last someone talking sense today, i had to check it wasn't April the 1st.Why are people starting to turn on the Council just because some moronic MEP has held a meeting with Joy and discovered absolutely nothing??
Please tell me what you expect the council to do differently?
"Sell the Ricoh to Sisu/CCFC" - Why even bother discussing it when SISU/Joy want it for nothing? Especially not a worthy price to the tax payer!
"They should have accepted the CVA" - Why is that? To accept £590k of taxpayers money? Were the taxpayer not entitled to the £1.3 million rent owed? Is it not right that they are still entitled to a large amount if not all of the £590k?
I have said all along both sides are to blame, the council/ACL are no angels. But by trying to suggest the council should have done more is ridiculous. Just because Joy has had a meeting with an insignificant MEP means nothing. What is the point in meeting with this woman? She is doing nothing. That meeting with Joy discussed the past and nothing of current importance. Surely the council leader has more to worry about than talking about what has already happened?
at last someone talking sense today, i had to check it wasn't April the 1st.
If SISU get the Ricoh we are sold, if they do not get it we are fucked. We are Fucked.
because this tenant has a place to stay and will build their owm house if they dont.
they dont hold sisu over a barell anymore, they need to make a concession or have an empty ground.
Amended that for you.If SISU get the Ricoh we are sold, if they do not get it we are fucked. We are Fucked.
No because we're at the bottom of the business cycle and you don't sell then says Tim.
No because we're at the bottom of the business cycle and you don't sell then says Tim.
ACL are past the top of their business cycle ... time to sell.
Yeah, because we haven't got a stadium. Once we have one, our value increases - approaching top of cycle.
Why are they past the top of their business cycle (and please don't say because the club moved out that's the sort of answer Tim would give)
Well, it's true, but let me phrase it this way:
The Ricoh will see about 250.000 less punters (edit: per year). The businesses in and around the stadium will suffer revenue due to the vast reduced number of customers. Sponsor deals will decrease in value. Just about everything connected to the stadium will decrease in value.
They have passed the top of the business cycle. It's time to sell to somebody who can revert the downward spiral.
Mostly true unless they can replace the CCFC revenue with another tenant, which I grant you is difficult to imagine but as we know from the previous chairman something they've looked at as a disaster plan, if we moved out.Well, it's true, but let me phrase it this way:
The Ricoh will see about 250.000 less punters (edit: per year). The businesses in and around the stadium will suffer revenue due to the vast reduced number of customers. Sponsor deals will decrease in value. Just about everything connected to the stadium will decrease in value.
They have passed the top of the business cycle. It's time to sell to somebody who can revert the downward spiral.
Amended that for you.
The football club/SISU also charged these same extortionate rates as well, as ACL pre sold a good chunk of those spaces to the club who added on a considerable mark up and re sold them. Of course those of us who knew how, parked right by the ground and paid zilch !!
The football club/SISU also charged these same extortionate rates as well, as ACL pre sold a good chunk of those spaces to the club who added on a considerable mark up and re sold them. Of course those of us who knew how, parked right by the ground and paid zilch !!
Those 9000 spaces went back to ACL when the club didn't pay it's rent.
Was there a reduction on the price of car-parking last season then without the clubs "extortionate" mark-up on them?
Was there a reduction in match-day ticket prices because the club weren't paying the rent?
Was there a reduction in match-day ticket prices because the club weren't paying the rent?
Season ticket prices are 20% lower than they were 3 seasons ago.
I just dont get or believe this "SISU owning the Ricoh and renting it to the club" arguement.
They want out of this whole sorry mess. Entirely. They surely won't want to still be involved in all the media slanging etc that has brought tar on their reputation.
Give them the stadium and they will sell the whole package in no time.
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