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Wasps reject proposal to withdraw application (1 Viewer)

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Samo

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  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #176
You know I can't even bring myself to read this fucking thread.
 
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Sam

Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #177
SkyBlueZack said:
Wasps don't seem to agree. They looked at 17 sites and none were suitable but the Higgs. Still let's ignore that and just blame SISU.
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I blame Sisu 100% for everything .
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #178
Sam said:
I blame Sisu 100% for everything .
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You have just signed up, of course you do
 
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covmark

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #179
Samo said:
You know I can't even bring myself to read this fucking thread.
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I wouldn't bother mate. It consists basically of Italia making a prick of himself as usual.
Don't know why anyone gives the cretin the time of day on here.

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #180
Nick said:
You have just signed up, of course you do
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How many of these are you getting?
 
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Sam

Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #181
Nick said:
You have just signed up, of course you do
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What has me signing up have todo with my opinion ? Thats what I signed up for to voice my own opinion . Is that not what fan forums are about ?
 
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SkyBlueZack

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #182
Sam said:
What has me signing up have todo with my opinion ? Thats what I signed up for to voice my own opinion . Is that not what fan forums are about ?
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Yeah....if you're a fan of the club the forum is about. Not some rabid cretin that is more suitable for the telegraph comment section.
 
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Sam

Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #183
SkyBlueZack said:
Yeah....if you're a fan of the club the forum is about. Not some rabid cretin that is more suitable for the telegraph comment section.
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I fail to spot the Humour
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #184
italiahorse said:
I think we should roll over and die.
Sisu are obviously thinking along the same defeatist lines so lets just moan and groan and pretend nothing can go wrong and do absolutely nothing.
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You keep trawling out the same lines, and yet haven't put any feasible solution forward yourself, apart from wasps buy us and as usual that nugget was based on no factual evidence that anyone, let alone Wasps are going to buy us, or that the club is for sale.

So why don't you carry on with your defeatist lines and just moan and groan, as just like the rest of us, preaching on a forum doesn't make you better than anyone else.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #185
Sam said:
What has me signing up have todo with my opinion ? Thats what I signed up for to voice my own opinion . Is that not what fan forums are about ?
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Strange, is that the template reply? I didn't say any of that did I? Very quick to start all of that.
 
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Chipfat

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #186
fernandopartridge said:
It isn't SISU. It is Coventry City Football Club and their Chief Executive. He's employed by CCFC.
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I completely understand, but my points are Wasps, CCC and any other that is involved are not looking at it that way. They see it as Sisu and are very obviously splitting the two as they have a motive to do so. That is why most are struggling with this, i don't see it any other way CCC are trying everything they know to get Sisu out of this club and city, a bigger game is in play.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #187
dongonzalos said:
How many of these are you getting?
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Registrations have never been higher! It's just a shame all they do is visit the same couple of threads.
 
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Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #188
italiahorse said:
This is exactly my point. You are another victim.
You dream stuff up that has not happened and then get depressed as if it has.
I not making excuses for Wasps if you read what I have said I'm telling you what I think their plan is.
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Do you know what we are all victims. Stop being so imbecilic.

We are victims of shit owners, and a shit council and of being at the mercy of a franchised rugby team.

I used to give you credit that you weren't blinkered by the fact that Wasps make you money, but I am not so sure. We as fans are all victims, but you are the only one who apparently thinks otherwise, about yourself, which I presume means that greed is god and as you are all right you aren't that interested in CCFC. In that sense you are SISU's ideal fan.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #189
Chipfat said:
I completely understand, but my points are Wasps, CCC and any other that is involved are not looking at it that way. They see it as Sisu and are very obviously splitting the two as they have a motive to do so. That is why most are struggling with this, i don't see it any other way CCC are trying everything they know to get Sisu out of this club and city, a bigger game is in play.
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So maybe they should think about what happens the day sisu do leave then?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #190
Sam said:
I blame Sisu 100% for everything .
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Are they 100%to blame for everything though?

I am very vocal against them. But they are not 100% to blame that is for sure. The reason that they are at our club is because we were already in the shit.

We sold HR and didn't have a replacement being built and couldn't afford one. The money raised went on running costs for a few months.

CCC shouldn't have let the arena go to a rugger club from nearly 100 miles away. And that is without the lease being extended.

CCFC put the 50% share of the arena up as security after CCC gave it to them. Then couldn't afford to buy it back.

What SISU have done is have a bad attitude way of trying to get what they want as cheap as they can get it. It has lost our club big time. But they can't be blamed for anything before they turned up. And they are not to blame for everything since.
 
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olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #191
From the statement in the CT, do we really expect that Wasps have a plan already to achieve what CCFC need? Oh, and should share it already with CA? Do Wasps know all the details about what the Academy needs? Blimey, talk about masters of invention....

I would have thought meeting to discuss it, and letting wasps know what the CCFC requirements are in detail would be a good move? (I would have hoped that the outline academy needs were in the 17 points CA discussed already?) At the very least, it gives CA more ammo if Wasps fail to come up with something sensible. Putting a "you do this first then I'll agree to meet" seems quite antagonistic given our precarious position with the academy.

An offer to talk, whether meaningful or spin, should have been taken advantage of imo.

Who knows, maybe NW was right, and this is all part of a SISU masterplan, and they don't want to really meet with wasps at all...
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #192
SkyBlueScottie said:
Why text him, why refuse to put it in writing, why not get around a bloody table.... Saying that, the council have got rid of the 50 Metre swimming pool, Wasps are suggesting they will build one, I am guessing the Council are all for that idea.
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Because Joy told him no.
 
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SkyBlueZack

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #193
Astute said:
Are they 100%to blame for everything though?

I am very vocal against them. But they are not 100% to blame that is for sure. The reason that they are at our club is because we were already in the shit.

We sold HR and didn't have a replacement being built and couldn't afford one. The money raised went on running costs for a few months.

CCC shouldn't have let the arena go to a rugger club from nearly 100 miles away. And that is without the lease being extended.

CCFC put the 50% share of the arena up as security after CCC gave it to them. Then couldn't afford to buy it back.

What SISU have done is have a bad attitude way of trying to get what they want as cheap as they can get it. It has lost our club big time. But they can't be blamed for anything before they turned up. And they are not to blame for everything since.
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We might not agree on the EU, but hallelujah to that Astute
 
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Sam

Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #194
Astute said:
Are they 100%to blame for everything though?

I am very vocal against them. But they are not 100% to blame that is for sure. The reason that they are at our club is because we were already in the shit.

We sold HR and didn't have a replacement being built and couldn't afford one. The money raised went on running costs for a few months.

CCC shouldn't have let the arena go to a rugger club from nearly 100 miles away. And that is without the lease being extended.

CCFC put the 50% share of the arena up as security after CCC gave it to them. Then couldn't afford to buy it back.

What SISU have done is have a bad attitude way of trying to get what they want as cheap as they can get it. It has lost our club big time. But they can't be blamed for anything before they turned up. And they are not to blame for everything since.
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Each company , Council , CCFC , Wasps , Higgs , are responsible for themselves , if they are being out flanked its down to the individual concerned .
 
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SkyBlueZack

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #195
olderskyblue said:
From the statement in the CT, do we really expect that Wasps have a plan already to achieve what CCFC need? Oh, and should share it already with CA? Do Wasps know all the details about what the Academy needs? Blimey, talk about masters of invention....

I would have thought meeting to discuss it, and letting wasps know what the CCFC requirements are in detail would be a good move? (I would have hoped that the outline academy needs were in the 17 points CA discussed already?) At the very least, it gives CA more ammo if Wasps fail to come up with something sensible. Putting a "you do this first then I'll agree to meet" seems quite antagonistic given our precarious position with the academy.

An offer to talk, whether meaningful or spin, should have been taken advantage of imo.

Who knows, maybe NW was right, and this is all part of a SISU masterplan, and they don't want to really meet with wasps at all...
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Yet Wasps seem to think they can accomodate the academy? So if they think that, they must know the requirements?
 
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SkyBlueZack

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #196
Sam said:
Each company , Council , CCFC , Wasps , Higgs , are responsible for themselves , if they are being out flanked its down to the individual concerned .
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You are definitely a plant! CCC are responsible to the people of Coventry. Not to serve their own selfish wishes.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #197
Was never going to happen, this was a done deal from the moment they took over the Ricoh 2 years ago.
 
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olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #198
SkyBlueZack said:
Yet Wasps seem to think they can accomodate the academy? So if they think that, they must know the requirements?
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Or maybe think they know, but would like to discuss it with CA first? He should meet with them.
 
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Sam

Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #199
Nick said:
Strange, is that the template reply? I didn't say any of that did I? Very quick to start all of that.
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Your suppose tobe Admin... why you being hostile ? I joined to debate with fellow fans , not be personally attacked , cut me some slack please .
 
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Sam

Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #200
SkyBlueZack said:
You are definitely a plant! CCC are responsible to the people of Coventry. Not to serve their own selfish wishes.
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Utter rubbish , My opinion differs to yours so you throw accusations .
 
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SkyBlueZack

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #201
Sam said:
Your suppose tobe Admin... why you being hostile ? I joined to debate with fellow fans , not be personally attacked , cut me some slack please .
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Personally don't know how he puts up with it. I'd just ban you.
 
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eedyut

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #202
The Council couldn't care less about it's citizens and heritage, let alone a few thousand football fans.

It should have been impossible to reject a Combined Authority referendum on the grounds of cost and complexity of voting forms. When such a huge, sweeping plan is announced, with all of it's connotations, good and bad, the people in a "democracy" (especially a local one when that very locality is the issue) should obviously have a say, certainly be consulted and absolutely not just told they couldn't ask the question. That's dictatorship at local level, the worst kind.

The people were toothless then, when their rights were at stake. Hopefully, when it's something we care about more, like football, we can show a bit of bite, albeit on dry bones and us being just a fraction of the populous. Doubtful, though surely we can make Wasps life a little less snug, if just to show our disgust as so many have said.

Revolt is dead, now it's all revolting. Viva la revolution!
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #203
Sam said:
Your suppose tobe Admin... why you being hostile ? I joined to debate with fellow fans , not be personally attacked , cut me some slack please .
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I haven't been hostile have I.

To be fair, most people would have not had a clue what I was on about but you seemed to know full well and have the same reply as everybody else ready?

It is like a bloody call centre going off script.

Yes, it is a forum and lots of people don't agree. Lots of people support CCFC and don't agree. That is the generic pattern.
 
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Chipfat

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #204
SkyBlueZack said:
Wasps don't seem to agree. They looked at 17 sites and none were suitable but the Higgs. Still let's ignore that and just blame SISU.
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Most have the right to blame Sisu, Most see that all are playing a part in what has gone on. But lets be honest, other sites are not attractive to Wasp's as its puts no pressure on Sisu to drop the appeal against the CCC. Do you not see this is a bigger game than CCFC, Wasps are in bed with the CCC and are planning more than we know. They will want us in fighting blaming others Smoke and mirrors, Hey i may be wrong but time will tell who will be left standing!!!
 
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Sam

Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #205
Nick said:
I haven't been hostile have I.

To be fair, most people would have not had a clue what I was on about but you seemed to know full well and have the same reply as everybody else ready?

It is like a bloody call centre going off script.
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Talking in rhymes does nt help either
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #206
Nick said:
Registrations have never been higher! It's just a shame all they do is visit the same couple of threads.
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So people are signing up say they bland everything in SISU and go?
 
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SkyBlueZack

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #207
Chipfat said:
Most have the right to blame Sisu, Most see that all are playing a part in what has gone on. But lets be honest, other sites are not attractive to Wasp's as its puts no pressure on Sisu to drop the appeal against the CCC. Do you not see this is a bigger game than CCFC, Wasps are in bed with the CCC and are planning more than we know. They will want us in fighting blaming others Smoke and mirrors, Hey i may be wrong but time will tell who will be left standing!!!
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Is that all that matters then? Putting pressure on SISU? Getting one over on SISU? Bollocks to whatever damage it causes to the football club at present and in the future?

Do you not agree with Astutes comment? I would say it's hit the nail on the head.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #208
This club is dead now anyway. No point fighting it anymore, the council an wasps have conspired against us and our fans don't give a shit.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #209
dongonzalos said:
So people are signing up say they bland everything in SISU and go?
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Come on Don, surely obvious to you isn't it?

Like the guy who signed up just to say that he sees as many wasps shirts as he does ccfc in Coventry?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2016
  • #210
covmark said:
I wouldn't bother mate. It consists basically of Italia making a prick of himself as usual.
Don't know why anyone gives the cretin the time of day on here.

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
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I've blocked him so can't even see the drivel he posts, or when it's quoted
 
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