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Nick

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  • Aug 11, 2022
  • #5,986
Plot Twist: Cov Rugby are picking up the golden share to be in the Premier League. (entirely made up but would be hilarious)
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2022
  • #5,987
The next payment deadline is tomorrow, isn't it?
 
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MalcSB

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  • Aug 11, 2022
  • #5,988
torchomatic said:
The next payment deadline is tomorrow, isn't it?
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It’s not supposedly a payment deadline any more. wasps have said they would be unable to pay and so are putting together an alternative proposal. Bondholders would be really pleased if wasps pulled some master stroke though.
 
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Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2022
  • #5,989
H not
djr8369 said:
If there are any institutional investors with large stakes we are for a treat.
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I like your optimism.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2022
  • #5,990
tisza said:
sounds like fraud. Moving an asset at less than market value (which they've set themselves in accounts and bond doc)
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That has a familiar ring to it.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2022
  • #5,991
Nick said:
Plot Twist: Cov Rugby are picking up the golden share to be in the Premier League. (entirely made up but would be hilarious)
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As long as we get the stadium and they stay at the Butts.
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2022
  • #5,992
I wonder what our old mate Andy Goode thinks about it all?
He always had his finger on the pulse...


 
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djr8369

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  • Aug 11, 2022
  • #5,993

ADVFN

uk.advfn.com

Juicy reading today
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2022
  • #5,994
torchomatic said:
The next payment deadline is tomorrow, isn't it?
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Kicked into the long grass now I think
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Aug 11, 2022
  • #5,995
Kicked into the sand you mean
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 11, 2022
  • #5,996
MalcSB said:
It’s not supposedly a payment deadline any more. wasps have said they would be unable to pay and so are putting together an alternative proposal. Bondholders would be really pleased if wasps pulled some master stroke though.
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Bondholders will continue to receive interest for the period from May 13, 2022, on a half-yearly basis until the date of redemption
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2022
  • #5,997
oldfiver said:
Bondholders will continue to receive interest for the period from May 13, 2022, on a half-yearly basis until the date of redemption
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Well, they have been told they will receive interest.
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2022
  • #5,998
oldfiver said:
The Bondholder Facebook forum reporting they have filed a CVA

Which Company yet to find out
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No filing as yet
 

Kneeza

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  • Aug 11, 2022
  • #5,999
Flying Fokker said:
As long as we get the stadium and they stay at the Butts.
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Absolutely.
Might need to blag a few months at the CBA while the Butts is built out with the planned apartments, hotel, extra seating and terraces, but yes, that'd suit me nicely!
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 12, 2022
  • #6,000
djr8369 said:

ADVFN

uk.advfn.com

Juicy reading today
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Someone with more time and knowledge than me might want to visit the Companies House site. Wasps Holdings have guaranteed repayment of our bond, and sure enough there is a charge registered in favour of US Bank Trustees dated 13/5/15 but there also three other outstanding charges 2 to Richardson and one to Canmango of which Richardson is Director. Perhaps most worrying is that there is a charge in favour of Richardson also dated 13/5/15 and both have a negative pledge. A negative pledge prevents a Company creating an additional charge that would have a higher priority to repayment. But what happens if you have two on the same day? Sculduggery of a high order I fear. Arena Coventry 2006 also guarantee the bonds and there is another charge in favour of EDIT should read Compass Group. Our security may be a lot less secure than we think, and for sure Richardson is not on our side but our competitor when it comes to claiming return of our money from the carcass that was Wasps.
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Will need someone far more knowledgeable on bonds than me but if I had any money tied up in them and I wasn't worried before I certainly would be after reading that.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Aug 12, 2022
  • #6,001
My favourite box set: Wasps Downward Spiral.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Aug 12, 2022
  • #6,002
torchomatic said:
My favourite box set: Wasps Downward Spiral.
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The person who started this thread in my opinion should have the freedom of the city, a knighthood and be given a Villa in the Costa Blanca
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 12, 2022
  • #6,003
Wonky has lost the plot

DrunkenWasps.com - Sky BluesTalk in a forgiving mood!

DrunkenWasps.com discussion board : Unofficial Wasps news and views
m.rugbynetwork.net
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 12, 2022
  • #6,004
chiefdave said:
The way security was written about in the prospectus always seemed a bit off to me but I assumed it was just going over my head and as I wasn't about to hand them thousands of my own money not an issue.

How would it work in practice? Wasps say we're going to offer you 20p in the £, to pick a random figure, the bondholders say hold on we've got security. They then try and enforce that security and get the lease sold to recover their money, what happens then?
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Im obviously being thick but when SISU said we're up for sale if anyone wants to take on the club and the stadium, would that mean:

someone with clout or who could get a bank to invest, would say to bondholders I can buy the lease if you force the sale, you get your money back. He ends up with the 250 year lease then buys CCFC?

Guess its more involved that that, but would the be the general gist?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 12, 2022
  • #6,005
RegTheDonk said:
Im obviously being thick but when SISU said we're up for sale if anyone wants to take on the club and the stadium, would that mean:

someone with clout or who could get a bank to invest, would say to bondholders I can buy the lease if you force the sale, you get your money back. He ends up with the 250 year lease then buys CCFC?

Guess its more involved that that, but would the be the general gist?
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Could be just a tactic to prevent the prospect of this alongside the shutdown of trading the bonds ,but someone on the bondchat site has claimed Richardson has a negative charge over lease superceding those of the bondholders
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 12, 2022
  • #6,006
RegTheDonk said:
Im obviously being thick but when SISU said we're up for sale if anyone wants to take on the club and the stadium, would that mean:

someone with clout or who could get a bank to invest, would say to bondholders I can buy the lease if you force the sale, you get your money back. He ends up with the 250 year lease then buys CCFC?

Guess its more involved that that, but would the be the general gist?
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SISU haven’t said we are up for sale.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 12, 2022
  • #6,007
wingy said:
Could be just a tactic to prevent the prospect of this alongside the shutdown of trading the bonds ,but someone on the bondchat site has claimed Richardson has a negative charge over lease superceding those of the bondholders
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Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 12, 2022
  • #6,008
Thinking an announcement next week once the stadium handed back over from CWG
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 12, 2022
  • #6,009
Grendel said:
Wonky has lost the plot

DrunkenWasps.com - Sky BluesTalk in a forgiving mood!

DrunkenWasps.com discussion board : Unofficial Wasps news and views
m.rugbynetwork.net
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Just behind Shugs in the pecking order, some of their comments border on the ridiculous
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 12, 2022
  • #6,010

Wasps owner breaks silence to address administration claims

The Gallagher Premiership rugby club has played at the Coventry Building Society Arena since 2014
www.coventrytelegraph.net
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 12, 2022
  • #6,011
The guy that never speaks to the press coming out and talking about admin rumours when they can’t pay back aversive debt.

Wasps fans - “great for a bit of clear talking and clarity”
 
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steveo1987

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 12, 2022
  • #6,012
Gynnsthetonic said:
Just behind Shugs in the pecking order, some of their comments border on the ridiculous
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Absolute lunatics on there, thought rugby chaps were the intelligent ones.
 

steveo1987

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 12, 2022
  • #6,013
MalcSB said:

Wasps owner breaks silence to address administration claims

The Gallagher Premiership rugby club has played at the Coventry Building Society Arena since 2014
www.coventrytelegraph.net
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A bravado non story
 
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CCFC54321

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #6,014
That statement was pathetic.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #6,015
CCFC54321 said:
That statement was pathetic.
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What's even more pathetic is how their supporters have just accepted it without question. There's so many questions that need answering and all they got was 'everything's fine', yet they seem happy with that when very clearly there is a lot wrong.
 
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crowsnest

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #6,016
Check out WNTG limited (Wasps New Training Ground)

Richardson sold his shares on 13 May, date the interest was due to the boldholders.

Also wasps community foundation ltd has been struck off this week.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #6,017
Richardson is planning something incredibly dodgy.

If I held anything in those bonds I'd be looking at exercising the charge asap.
 
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LastGarrison

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #6,018
Liquid Gold said:
Richardson is planning something incredibly dodgy.

If I held anything in those bonds I'd be looking at exercising the charge asap.
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To be fair I think I would be doing everything I could to protect my financial interests as well before this absolute shit show comes falling down.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #6,019
Whatever this is has been dissolved

Wasps Community Foundation

Check out the important work the Wasps Community Foundation does!
www.wasps.co.uk
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #6,020
Grendel said:
Whatever this is has been dissolved

Wasps Community Foundation

Check out the important work the Wasps Community Foundation does!
www.wasps.co.uk
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It did little in this City anyway more interested towards Brum.
 
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