Brighton Sky Blue
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It’s entirely correct and worked in the primary. Biden is an incoherent mess every time he speaks-if he hides he wins
It’s an extraordinary election when the opposition tactic is to stop the candidate campaigning
A new des moines poll suggest that iowa will be won by trump at a canter... Which goes against all mainstream media poll predictions...
Also RCD polls suggest trump will win arizona... Against the mainstream again
The BBC poll of polls has Biden with 51% trump 42 % overall
Its so hard to trust polls these days isn't it
Trump will need to win them all to have a chance.
The Iowa poll is a mess, it suggests that Trump will win a majority of non white votes and by 15% in democratic strongholds,
Axelrod has speaking about this, looks like something has happened to their methodology
I have a feeling this will be closer than people think... The Democrats on social media appear to believe this race is done, there's some very strange republican confidence too.
For what it's worth I still think Biden will win... But I wouldn't put money on it
It will be closer than we think. Largely for two reasons:
1) A lot of people won't admit voting Trump because they are scared of the cancel culture consequences.
2) Most of the media want Biden to win, so it is exaggerated in his favour.
I've seen many big cities in the US having their shops being boarded up already. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump does a lot better than is being made out. If he does then it is definitely going to be baby tantrum time.
And if it's the other way?Even if he does better than expected he’ll still lose.
And if it's the other way?
How do you see that going, like some church jamboree?
Edit:- for ESB's post
I think Trump has a loyal voter base. They will definitely turn out. The question will be how high the turnout is - the higher the turnout I feel it gives Biden the edge.It will be closer than we think. Largely for two reasons:
1) A lot of people won't admit voting Trump because they are scared of the cancel culture consequences.
2) Most of the media want Biden to win, so it is exaggerated in his favour.
I've seen many big cities in the US having their shops being boarded up already. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump does a lot better than is being made out. If he does then it is definitely going to be baby tantrum time.
For those of you convinced the polls are somehow clueless - if they were off by the same margin they were in 2016, the NYT projects Biden would win 335 electoral college votes.
Election night itself could look pretty bad for Biden - the swing states that will report results the earliest happen to be the ones that are more likely to fall to Trump (Florida, Arizona, North Carolina). If Biden wins either of those it should be over pretty quickly. But even if he doesn't, his numbers in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania are staggering - far beyond anything Hillary Clinton had at this stage. Those states may not have final results until next weekend because of their bizarre mail-in ballots rules, but it's hard to see Trump winning all of them. Biden could lose every other swing state and still take the White House with those three.
Ultimately it will come down to Pennsylvania, which Trump cannot win the election without. No respected poll has him winning. At this stage, his best shout there genuinely seems to be winning other states early on to make the race close, and therefore persuading establishment Republicans and key cabinet members they should back him on his inevitable claims of voter fraud. If he doesn't have any momentum and it looks like a done deal for Biden, they'll quickly abandon him and leave him to complain on Twitter for months before he slopes off in January (I would guess overseas). Especially if the Senate itself flips Democrat (which also looks likely at this stage)
Will it be Wednesday morning the result is announce or Tuesday night?
It will be closer than we think. Largely for two reasons:
1) A lot of people won't admit voting Trump because they are scared of the cancel culture consequences.
2) Most of the media want Biden to win, so it is exaggerated in his favour.
I've seen many big cities in the US having their shops being boarded up already. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump does a lot better than is being made out. If he does then it is definitely going to be baby tantrum time.
US Election 2020: Missouri officials cover noose near polling booths
Democrats complained that the object could intimidate black voters, just days before elections.www.bbc.co.uk
Apart from the obvious horrific headline story the bit that caught my eye was the North carolina bit. Police pepperspraying people at a rally to promote voting. In the self-proclaimed greatest democracy on Earth.
If this is any indication Trump won't go quietly if he loses. Thankfully this attempt was thrown out by the courts.
Texas Supreme Court denies GOP-led petition seeking to invalidate 120,000 votes in Houston area
The Texas Supreme Court denied a petition Sunday by a group of Republicans seeking to invalidate nearly 127,000 drive-thru votes in Harris County, while a similar case awaits a decision in federal court just two days before Election Day.edition.cnn.com
No-one is more likely to react like a baby and have a tantrum than Trump is. Or tantrump if you will.
Armed Hicks surrounded Bidens bus and “escorted” out of an area of Texas yesterday.That's bullshit.
If Biden loses, the civil unrest would be a hell of a lot worse than the other way around.
Armed Hicks surrounded Bidens bus and “escorted” out of an area of Texas yesterday.
It was an act of violence and intimidation.Yes, and? Was anyone killed, did anything get looted? Was there even any violence?
I don't agree with it, but it is a drop in the ocean compared to what Biden has on his side with BLM and Antifa. They'll be countrywide riots if Trump wins.
To even try and say Biden supporters are more peaceful is delusional. They're not even comparable on the same scale.
LolYes, and? Was anyone killed, did anything get looted? Was there even any violence?
I don't agree with it, but it is a drop in the ocean compared to what Biden has on his side with BLM and Antifa. They'll be countrywide riots if Trump wins.
To even try and say Biden supporters are more peaceful is delusional. They're not even comparable on the same scale.
Talking yesterday with an ex UK Ambassador to the US. His opinion is that Trump may just have enough to be re-elected. He usually has his ear pretty close to the ground over there.
Yes, and? Was anyone killed, did anything get looted? Was there even any violence?
I don't agree with it, but it is a drop in the ocean compared to what Biden has on his side with BLM and Antifa. They'll be countrywide riots if Trump wins.
To even try and say Biden supporters are more peaceful is delusional. They're not even comparable on the same scale.
Yes, and? Was anyone killed, did anything get looted? Was there even any violence?
I don't agree with it, but it is a drop in the ocean compared to what Biden has on his side with BLM and Antifa. They'll be countrywide riots if Trump wins.
To even try and say Biden supporters are more peaceful is delusional. They're not even comparable on the same scale.
Get off Twitter mate. “Antifa”
I always wonder why some people are against something that just means anti fascist
That's bullshit.
If Biden loses, the civil unrest would be a hell of a lot worse than the other way around.
They only see what they want to see!!The lunatics have taken over the asylum.
Have none of you seen the utter state of looting and rioting in the last year over in America?
I guess we will have to see who wins the election, but I don't think Trump will get the floor wiped with him as much as some think.
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