Grendel
Well-Known Member
I’d rather sisu stay in charge than that lunatic
He was there representing the trust:
Coventry City fan takeover is 'doable', insists Sky Blue Trust
Lets say Fisher resigns tomorrow, what do you expect to happen then? Assuming he resigns all his roles the club has no chairman and no directors.Him still being there still links the owners with the club publically. We’ve had the argument millions of times on SISU and the club are/are not the same thing - fisher is the man that links both interests. Boddy hasn’t yet peddled those lines
Not sure why they are so keen to make out I made it up.He was there representing the trust:
Coventry City fan takeover is 'doable', insists Sky Blue Trust
Sorry to hear about your Nan, went through similar a few months back and no matter how much you're expecting it doesn't make it any easier.Thank you NW. I appreciate that. However as I’ve been constantly told we need to speak to the people and I’m the only one that does it I don’t see how I’ve got any other option, do you?
Did you hammer Wasps as hard as last year?
Lets say Fisher resigns tomorrow, what do you expect to happen then ?
Sorry to hear about your Nan, went through similar a few months back and no matter how much you're expecting it doesn't make it any easier.
To be honest given the situation it looks even worse on the trust that this is all left up to you. They are all capable of spouting off on twitter, why can't a couple of them sign up on here to give the trust side of things.
Think they're hanging you out to dry, they happily leave you to deal with all the complaints while they do whatever they feel like.
Nit picking. Maybe he doesn't have anything better to do.
Every time I see Fisher, I think of the Yorkshire Ripper, so I for one would be glad if he went. .Lets say Fisher resigns tomorrow, what do you expect to happen then? Assuming he resigns all his roles the club has no chairman and no directors.
Wasps need to keep the council on board though don't they for any future planning etc.My councillor replied to say there has been a lot going on in the background, It is not all mentioned in the press. They are as keen as anyone to get this sorted. But not owning the ground does make us disconnected from the process in general and any final deal has to be between the ground owners and CCFC. CCC has limited input into any of this. None of them have to take any notice of us. I think we do all need to follow this up with our councillors and mp’s. They need to know what we expect of them in terms of European city of sport and city of culture. Major own goal to lose the club
Wasps need to keep the council on board though don't they for any future planning etc.
The council do have some sway here.
I agree. I’ve asked how losing the club fits in with the city of culture and European city of sport events and if he would like any personal context of the impact the club has on the local community then to ask.Wasps need to keep the council on board though don't they for any future planning etc.
The council do have some sway here.
I agree. I’ve asked how losing the club fits in with the city of culture and European city of sport events and if he would like any personal context of the impact the club has on the local community then to ask.
So you’re response would be? Of course you do why did you stop the move to the butts? Why is the council wishing to destroy he club? Is it personal against joy and Sisu?Of course they do. The Council soon had input when there was rumours of the Butts and they jumped in to try and block it.
It's just more lies they can get away with as they have "public opinion" on their side.
So you’re response would be? Of course you do why did you stop the move to the butts? Why is the council wishing to destroy he club? Is it personal against joy and Sisu?
I don't mean it would remove the official link, but as you well know a lot of our fans do think he's part of both and as such -they think the club and SISU is the same thing.Fisher going doesn't remove a link, the same as when igwe and orange Ken went. That's the thing and what's missed.
That's not saying he's an amazing chairman, he clearly isn't. Boddy has done much more in less time in terms of improving the club.
I know from conversations I’ve had directly with those involved that ccc and seppalla fell out massively and from a person who is wise and respected in their field the blame wasn’t all on Sisu. What i didnt understand was why continue the legal action? It’s such a mess and I’m pretty sure ccc wasps Sisu Ccfc are fully expecting a resolution which may mean sleepwalking into a catastrophic outcome for CcfcThey will always have some sort of input / power as seen by what they did with Cov Rugby. For them to say they have no say is nonsense.
I doubt they would answer about wishing to destroy the club but I'd say it is pretty personal.
I'm not saying it will be successful, but its all about convincing the masses. I'd be more interested in the trusts stance if Fisher resigned. Would they then support the clubs stance and then pressure wasps?Lets say Fisher resigns tomorrow, what do you expect to happen then? Assuming he resigns all his roles the club has no chairman and no directors.
IMO one of two things will happen. 1) Boddy is given Fishers roles, at least temporarily, surely a disadvantage in any talks with Wasps or 2) SISU appoint someone else, as hard as it might be to imagine given their track record there is every chance that new appointment will be worse than Fisher (in recent months Fisher has largely kept his mouth shut and remained out of the spotlight which I'm sure everyone agrees is a good thing).
I don't see how either of those options improve things? Or are people expecting SISU to suddenly drop legal action if Fisher goes?
I'm not saying it will be successful, but its all about convincing the masses. I'd be more interested in the trusts stance if Fisher resigned. Would they then support the clubs stance and then pressure wasps?
We know Fisher has no control of the legals but some of our fans - again see Facebook and Twitter believe he does. He's done irreparable damage to the club just by speaking.
I know from conversations I’ve had directly with those involved that ccc and seppalla fell out massively and from a person who is wise and respected in their field the blame wasn’t all on Sisu. What i didnt understand was why continue the legal action? It’s such a mess and I’m pretty sure ccc wasps Sisu Ccfc are fully expecting a resolution which may mean sleepwalking into a catastrophic outcome for Ccfc
Can you find me an article about wasps in this tone?
Sky Blue Trust - A Response to Tim Fisher
You still haven't posted anything that could be classed as negative about wasps. (I'm not saying abuse etc)
When they came back to the Ricoh following negotiations led by the dean. I know Ann and John really felt let down by joy and others at Sisu and it became a battle but John and Ann were huge city fans and I don’t know how you can allow such damage to be done to your team. Pretty sure Ann felt let down by Marlon but John??Was that in the Lucas days?
Just my opinion is that it's all one big game of poker with egos involved and CCFC is now nothing but a chip on the table.
Good you got an answer of sorts. As you say, if nothing else just pushing for a response puts the club on their radar, if nothing else.My councillor replied to say there has been a lot going on in the background, It is not all mentioned in the press. They are as keen as anyone to get this sorted. But not owning the ground does make us disconnected from the process in general and any final deal has to be between the ground owners and CCFC. CCC has limited input into any of this. None of them have to take any notice of us. I think we do all need to follow this up with our councillors and mp’s. They need to know what we expect of them in terms of European city of sport and city of culture. Major own goal to lose the club
Always thought with Mutton it was ideology driven in the end, wasn't it? (Also tbf from Seppala's side too. Can't get two more opposed directions really!)When they came back to the Ricoh following negotiations led by the dean. I know Ann and John really felt let down by joy and others at Sisu and it became a battle but John and Ann were huge city fans and I don’t know how you can allow such damage to be done to your team. Pretty sure Ann felt let down by Marlon but John??
Yep I completely agree about constructive dialogue. Very frustrated that of my 3 councillors the only one who always replies is the Tory oneAlways thought with Mutton it was ideology driven in the end, wasn't it? (Also tbf from Seppala's side too. Can't get two more opposed directions really!)
I mean, that's gone. We could spend (and maybe will!) ages debating the what-ifs there and it may well be important to uncover in time to come, so we don't go through this again(!) but for the present, there's a more pressing problem that needs everyone to start with a clean slate, to solve the current issue.
That means we need to push forward constructively rather than who said what. Plenty of time for the latter afterwards!
I'll give them all the benefit of the doubt until the New Year - even councillors deserve some time offYep I completely agree about constructive dialogue. Very frustrated that of my 3 councillors the only one who always replies is the Tory one
It’s more Coventry councillors who are long standing huge fans of the club saying there’s nothing we can do and giving up on the club and it’s future that I don’t understand. I think nw makes a good point about politics and faith. And how John and Joy were poles apart. Much like Americans and Britain’s sense of fair play etc or right wing evangelical or making money being god. One of our labour mp’s came into our work a few weeks back to talk to managers about centralising the area of the civil service I’m in. It was good he did given Brexit but his ideas were from another era when the world was very differentAnd is that when Fisher says " we are going to build a new stadium"
I won't go quite as far as you
what an utter c**t this man is. Some of us just want CCFC to survive, to us it's more important than a pissing contest between two hedge funds.
I always start with incompetence and mistake rather than intentional action to piss people off. I can’t help thinking that we are an irritation to joy and Sisu and fisher just isn’t very good at his job.I won't go quite as far as youI would like to know why he thinks Fisher wouldn't want a Ricoh deal however. There was a logic to Northampton, but I don't quite see what the prize is this time (beyond oblivion and compensation, but I'm not convinced that's Fisher's aim at the end of the day!! Could possibly be his paymaster's, but don't see what's in it for him!)
Someone with a passing knowledge of SISU and Joy had always said the same thing, long before this all blew up. We're a speculation that failed, but now we're a chance to enhance Seppala's reputation in her field. Unfortunately, that attempt then shows a lack of understanding of other fields... whilst hers isn't understood, either. Cue impasse and destruction!I can’t help thinking that we are an irritation to joy
Think that’s what the dean needs thanks for when we returned. Getting people to appreciate another’s opinionSomeone with a passing knowledge of SISU and Joy had always said the same thing, long before this all blew up. We're a speculation that failed, but now we're a chance to enhance Seppala's reputation in her field. Unfortunately, that attempt then shows a lack of understanding of other fields... whilst hers isn't understood, either. Cue impasse and destruction!
The irony is on a purely footballing side, even though some decisions haven't come off, I've thought since Fisher and Waggot have come to the club it's all been slightly rational. It's just the ground where the issue goes bonkers, and it's safe to say that's driven by higher powers.
Empathy's what's been lacking on all sides. It's about time they started. They don't even have to accept one another's position, but at least try and understand it!
At companies house Tim Fisher is listed as a person of "significant interest" in the companies operating CCFC. Therefore, as you've stated - he does have control over the legal process. Grendal thinks he has no control....if that's the case then the submission to companies house is false and that is against the law!Undoubtedly they would. I think the point is though that Fisher must have signed off on the legal action being done in the clubs name if it’s legally required of him to do so as his roll. Any new patsy wouldn’t carry that connection so the clubs argument that they have no control over the legals would stand up more.
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