Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (17 Viewers)

[Grendel]

Why am I not surprised you think so

Who in any media capacity agrees with you? I’ve not actually seen anyone defend it.

 

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[CCFCSteve]

Being upset with him being shown saying something he said given what happened right after is just a bit odd in my opinion

I don’t care much for Trump so ‘being upset’ is a little OTT. I am concerned about how people consume media/information these days though and it appears more and more that as long as it aligns with their thinking on a subject, it doesn’t matter if it’s wholly accurate/factual. We’re on a slippery slope

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I don’t care much for Trump so ‘being upset’ is a little OTT. I am concerned about how people consume media/information these days though and it appears more and more that as long as it aligns with their thinking on a subject, it doesn’t matter if it’s wholly accurate/factual. We’re on a slippery slope

Countless Trump interviews have been favourably edited in his favour without comment by his sycophants on here.

 

[Grendel]

Countless Trump interviews have been favourably edited in his favour without comment by his sycophants of which I am the biggest.

Dear me - find anyone who is defending the BBC other than you. It’s nothing to do with Trump

 

[rondog1973]

In what context was Trump saying "fight like hell"?

 

[chiefdave]

Countless Trump interviews have been favourably edited in his favour without comment by his sycophants on here.

It's obviously not good to mislead by way of the edit but we're talking about something here that was years after the event and not exactly presenting something that was a million miles away from the truth.

Yet this has people up in arms, people who I suspect did not take similar issue to the Newsnight having to issue an apology after stating Corbyn had never apologised for anti-semistism in the Labour Party or the numerous errors in Panorama's 'Is Labour Antisemitic'. Just two of I'm sure many examples that spring to mind

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It's obviously not good to mislead by way of the edit but we're talking about something here that was years after the event and not exactly presenting something that was a million miles away from the truth.

Yet this has people up in arms, people who I suspect did not take similar issue to the Newsnight having to issue an apology after stating Corbyn had never apologised for anti-semistism in the Labour Party or the numerous errors in Panorama's 'Is Labour Antisemitic'. Just two of I'm sure many examples that spring to mind

For people who already have an axe to grind with the BBC and have their noses rammed up Trump's arse it's a wet dream.

 

[CovValleyBoy]

Own it you clown

 

[Captain Dart]

Being upset with him being shown saying something he said given what happened right after is just a bit odd in my opinion

So you are OK with politicians speeches being cut & pasted in whatever way the BBC wish to portray someone so they appear to have said something they did not?

 

[Grendel]

There is of course the Martine Croxhall fiasco as well

 

[Grendel]

Tim Davie has resigned. It seems he eventually gets the point - unlike some kn here

 

[Captain Dart]

BBC director general Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turness resign over Trump documentary edit - BBC News

"BBC director general Tim Davie and CEO of News Deborah Turness have resigned over a documentary about Donald Trump

The Telegraph had published details of a leaked internal BBC memo suggesting Panorama edited two parts of Trump's speech together so he appeared to explicitly encourage the Capitol Hill riots of January 2021

In a statement, Davie says: "There have been some mistakes made and as director general I have to take ultimate responsibility" - read it in full

"The whole board respects the decision," the BBC chair says

The leaked memo came from Michael Prescott, a former independent external adviser to the broadcaster's editorial standards committee. He left the role in June

Davie's departure after five years as boss follows other separate BBC controversies in recent months, including of its Glastonbury coverage"

BBC director general Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turness resign - live updates

Davie says "there have been some mistakes made and as director general I have to take ultimate responsibility".

www.bbc.com

I guess BSB's judgement is flawed.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

BBC director general Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turness resign over Trump documentary edit - BBC News

"BBC director general Tim Davie and CEO of News Deborah Turness have resigned over a documentary about Donald Trump

The Telegraph had published details of a leaked internal BBC memo suggesting Panorama edited two parts of Trump's speech together so he appeared to explicitly encourage the Capitol Hill riots of January 2021

In a statement, Davie says: "There have been some mistakes made and as director general I have to take ultimate responsibility" - read it in full

"The whole board respects the decision," the BBC chair says

The leaked memo came from Michael Prescott, a former independent external adviser to the broadcaster's editorial standards committee. He left the role in June

Davie's departure after five years as boss follows other separate BBC controversies in recent months, including of its Glastonbury coverage"

BBC director general Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turness resign - live updates

Davie says "there have been some mistakes made and as director general I have to take ultimate responsibility".

www.bbc.com

I guess BSB's judgement is flawed.

The entire speech was designed to whip up the insurrection. I know we want a revisionist history of the election and the riots he incited but getting someone at the BBC to resign because his words were broadcast isn't the way to achieve it.

 

[PVA]

Regardless of the Trump story it's good to see the back of Davie.

 

[Grendel]

The entire speech was designed to whip up the insurrection. I know we want a revisionist history of the election and the riots he incited but getting someone at the BBC to resign because his words were broadcast isn't the way to achieve it.

Still missing the point

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Still missing the point

As are you it seems. The complaint is that this editing 'made it look' like Trump was encouraging the insurrection. The point of the rally and his whole speech was to do just that.

 

[fatso]

For people who already have an axe to grind with the BBC and have their noses rammed up Trump's arse it's a wet dream.

Its a dream for anyone who wants their news reported truthfully, and without any political bias or agenda.

So I fully welcome this outcome.
Now let's get rid of the licence fee.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Its a dream for anyone who wants their news reported truthfully, and without any political bias or agenda.

So I fully welcome this outcome.
Now let's get rid of the licence fee.

Yes the problem there is that if the news contains things you don't agree with you assume it's because of bias rather than because that's how it is. By most measures the BBC is about as impartial as it gets.

 

[fatso]

Yes the problem there is that if the news contains things you don't agree with you assume it's because of bias rather than because that's how it is. By most measures the BBC is about as impartial as it gets.

Then we should hold ALL news sources to account. I very much doubt that the BBC is the only corrupt news outlet, but its well known for its bias, so I think that the Trump speech edit was just the final straw.

I firmly believe that its long past time that the compulsory funding from home owners was overturned. It should be forced to fund itself (like other channels) or go under.

 

[Captain Dart]

The entire speech was designed to whip up the insurrection. I know we want a revisionist history of the election and the riots he incited but getting someone at the BBC to resign because his words were broadcast isn't the way to achieve it.

All you can do is deflect, I am not arguing about Trump I am arguing about the lack of ethics at the BBC.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

All you can do is deflect, I am not arguing about Trump I am arguing about the lack of ethics at the BBC.

Lack of ethics? Which news organisations in the country are more reputable in your view?

 

[Grendel]

As are you it seems. The complaint is that this editing 'made it look' like Trump was encouraging the insurrection. The point of the rally and his whole speech was to do just that.

That’s not the issue

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That’s not the issue

So what is?

 

[Captain Dart]

So what is?

There are too many people at the BBC who believe it's okay to lie for their political or religious beliefs who think they are ethically, morally and intellectually superior to everyone else.

The BBC is broken, I lost most of my trust in them 5 years ago, of course I knew even then they were prone to misrepresenting the truth when it suited and that's historically been the case from it's inception.

You may have similar tendencies or simply lack true wisdom.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

There are too many people at the BBC who believe it's okay to lie for their political or religious beliefs who think they are ethically, morally and intellectually superior to everyone else.

The BBC is broken, I lost most of my trust in them 5 years ago, of course I knew even then they were prone to misrepresenting the truth when it suited and that's historically been the case from it's inception.

You may have similar tendencies or simply lack true wisdom.

Ah, because they reported things contrary to your Covid conspiracies?

 

[Grendel]

So what is?

They doctored a speech - it’s something that is a direct breach of guidelines. It was obvious he had to go.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

They doctored a speech - it’s something that is a direct breach of guidelines. It was obvious he had to go.

Doctored a speech-did they depict him saying words he didn’t say?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Whatever people’s view of Trump they should find this as totally unacceptable. I expect to have to take everything I read on social media and even normal media/press with a pinch of salt….everything’s an opinion piece these days, even when it should just be reporting. But the bbc ?!

‘The episode of Panorama, broadcast eight days before last year’s presidential election, appeared to show Trump urging his supporters to march with him on Washington to “fight like hell”. In fact, he said he would accompany them “to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard”. The “fight like hell” comment came later in his speech.’

Trump speaks enough shit not to have to make stuff up. Makes you wonder what other stuff on different subjects they might have ‘tweaked’

It is unacceptable and what makes it really annoying it that it was completely unnecessary. Even if you play the speech in it's entirety it still comes across as someone trying to encourage an insurrection.

Instead because of this the likes of Trump and his cronies are getting to go around saying the BBC is just full of fake news (which it isn't) and that he is being victimised. It's given a man who should be in prison for trying to overthrow a government an excuse to claim he's the one that's been treated unfairly.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Its a dream for anyone who wants their news reported truthfully, and without any political bias or agenda.

So I fully welcome this outcome.
Now let's get rid of the licence fee.

When the likes of Fox and GBN get even close to the standards the BBC currently reach, then we can talk about organisations being truthful and without political bias or agenda.

Don't forget it's the likes of the BBC giving Farage far more airtime than his polling suggested he deserved as to why he's so prominent. And why Boris went from being just another right wing hack to a major media personality.

 

[SBT]

Its a dream for anyone who wants their news reported truthfully, and without any political bias or agenda.

You must be very concerned about the rise of GB News?

 

[fatso]

You must be very concerned about the rise of GB News?

I'll give it a try and see.

 

[chiefdave]

Its a dream for anyone who wants their news reported truthfully, and without any political bias or agenda.

Someone's got to take one for the team, might as well be me.

Where are you going for your news that is without any political bias or agenda?

 

[fatso]

When the likes of Fox and GBN get even close to the standards the BBC currently reach, then we can talk about organisations being truthful and without political bias or agenda.

Don't forget it's the likes of the BBC giving Farage far more airtime than his polling suggested he deserved as to why he's so prominent. And why Boris went from being just another right wing hack to a major media personality.

I think Boris rocketed into the news when he chose to front Brexit. That was clearly a politically motivated career move. Nothing to do with the BBC's coverage. Every news source covered him almost every night because he literally became the news.

 

[fatso]

Someone's got to take one for the team, might as well be me.

Where are you going for your news that is without any political bias or agenda?

Im struggling tbh, there's examples of bias everywhere you look unfortunately. But it goes to a completely different level when im forced to pay for an organisation who re-edits a world leaders speech to fit their own agenda.

At least im not forced to fund ITV news or Sky news or Fox news etc etc.

Very interesting opening remark you make, what "team" would you be taking one for i wonder?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I think Boris rocketed into the news when he chose to front Brexit. That was clearly a politically motivated career move. Nothing to do with the BBC's coverage. Every news source covered him almost every night because he literally became the news.

He became more into the public notice after appearing on HIGNFY. He was already well known far before Brexit, being London Major