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Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (12 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 1:02 PM
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skybluetony176 said:
Didn’t he threaten to bomb Mexico earlier today/late last night.

Agree with your Mark Carney comments though, he’s played Trump for the fool he is. Fair play to the Canadian people as well. Before Carney stepped up there was a strong possibility that a Trump stooge on the right of Canadian politics might be the next PM and empowered Trump to be even worse than he is. Been to Trump what Mussolini was to Hitler, a good little pet.
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We’ll see how Scheinbaum responds to this latest threat, but he went back in his hole after she stood up to him a year ago. He gets weak at the knees for confident men who project power, which is also why he backed off from Macron at the WH last year.

Classic playground bully.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Yesterday at 1:05 PM
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Milei will be threatening to invade the Falklands next to save it from Russia and China. He’ll get Trumps blessing too because he’s another Trump pet. The “patriots” of this country will also give him their blessing while painting red crosses on mini roundabouts.
 
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tisza

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  • Yesterday at 1:06 PM
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Ccfcisparks said:
I would trust Donald to look after Greenland more than NATO.
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It's nothing more than a massive financial grab of the large mineral/metal resources. Russia & China aren't invading Greenland. US has too many submarine assets etc that could prevent any sort of land grab. Anything else could be sorted by building new bases on Greenland that would deter any remote threat from Russiaa/china.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Yesterday at 1:12 PM
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Sick Boy said:
The approach European and NATO leaders have taken toward him has failed spectacularly.
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I’m not sure if they/we could’ve done much else to be honest. It was imperative that the US didn’t walk away from Ukraine completely.

Been saying for a long time NATO/Europe basically outsourced its defence to the US for way too long. That leaves us exposed. Even after the Ukraine war started many didn’t contribute the 2% of gdp on defence and as has been discussed on here before have continued to chuck billions at Russia for energy

The stance has at least bought NATO/europe some time to get their shit together.
 

chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 1:18 PM
  • #16,280
skybluetony176 said:
Agree with your Mark Carney comments though, he’s played Trump for the fool he is. Fair play to the Canadian people as well. Before Carney stepped up there was a strong possibility that a Trump stooge on the right of Canadian politics might be the next PM and empowered Trump to be even worse than he is.
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Find it interesting that Canada was on course for a big swing to the right until Trump stuck his nose in.

Overnight he generated huge anti American sentiment that is still in place. The American anthem gets booed at sporting events, even when requests are made to ‘respect the anthem of our opponents’, Canadian TV is full of ads proclaiming companies to be proudly Canadian or products made in Canada.

At the same time the number of Canadian visitors to the US has plummeted. There’s towns just across the border that used to be flooded with Canadian day trippers on shopping trips every weekend that are now practically ghost towns. There’s an ice hockey tournament that takes place every new year that has had dire attendances this year, the reason? Canadians won’t cross the border to attend.

Completely at odds with what we see here with people cheering him on and nobody on the right having a bad word to say about the way Farage fawns over him.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 1:22 PM
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chiefdave said:
Find it interesting that Canada was on course for a big swing to the right until Trump stuck his nose in.

Overnight he generated huge anti American sentiment that is still in place. The American anthem gets booed at sporting events, even when requests are made to ‘respect the anthem of our opponents’, Canadian TV is full of ads proclaiming companies to be proudly Canadian or products made in Canada.

At the same time the number of Canadian visitors to the US has plummeted. There’s towns just across the border that used to be flooded with Canadian day trippers on shopping trips every weekend that are now practically ghost towns. There’s an ice hockey tournament that takes place every new year that has had dire attendances this year, the reason? Canadians won’t cross the border to attend.

Completely at odds with what we see here with people cheering him on and nobody on the right having a bad word to say about the way Farage fawns over him.
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It had a similar impact on the Australian elections too. Conversely, Trump basically bribed the Argentinians into keeping Milei in office.
 
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tisza

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  • Yesterday at 1:24 PM
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CCFCSteve said:
Been saying for a long time NATO/Europe basically outsourced its defence to the US for way too long. That leaves us exposed. Even after the Ukraine war started many didn’t contribute the 2% of gdp on defence and as has been discussed on here before have continued to chuck billions at Russia for energy

The stance has at least bought NATO/europe some time to get their shit together.
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Wouldn't trust Europe to "get their shit together". Announced a big defense budget/spending plan then started worrying about keeping the spending within the EU rather than actually getting the actual kit etc they need. Then you have EU defense businesses that want to expand but complain it'll take them years to get the planning permission/licences etc to do so.
 
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tisza

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  • Yesterday at 1:27 PM
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For allTrump's talk not sure he'd even get congressional approval to "annexe" Greenland anyway. Enough "rebels" within Republican ranks to scupper it. And if he doesn't move quickly he's likely to be facing a hostile Congress after the mid-terms (November) anyway.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 1:31 PM
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tisza said:
For allTrump's talk not sure he'd even get congressional approval to "annexe" Greenland anyway. Enough "rebels" within Republican ranks to scupper it. And if he doesn't move quickly he's likely to be facing a hostile Congress after the mid-terms (November) anyway.
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In a fully functioning democracy with appropriate guard rails he’d have been removed from office already.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Yesterday at 1:36 PM
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tisza said:
For allTrump's talk not sure he'd even get congressional approval to "annexe" Greenland anyway. Enough "rebels" within Republican ranks to scupper it. And if he doesn't move quickly he's likely to be facing a hostile Congress after the mid-terms (November) anyway.
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Why does he need congressional support? He’ll just do what he wants anyway.

Regards the point on a mineral grab, the Danes have said they’re more than willing for mining companies to move into Greenland but there’s been no interest from US.
 

tisza

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  • Yesterday at 1:47 PM
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SBAndy said:
Why does he need congressional support? He’ll just do what he wants anyway.

Regards the point on a mineral grab, the Danes have said they’re more than willing for mining companies to move into Greenland but there’s been no interest from US.
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Little interest from US oil companies in re-investing in Venezuela but Trump's convinced there would be.
Maybe some companies aren't interested atm but Trump has been convinced that there is a fortune under Greenland that US should have. When he first mentioned annexing Greenland (during his first term) it was to do with its wealth - not for security.
 
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Johnnythespider

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  • Yesterday at 5:09 PM
  • #16,287
djr8369 said:
It looks like she’s looking over her shoulder to reverse then goes to move forwards and he’s walked in front of the car as she looks forwards. He shoots immediately causing her to involuntarily accelerate harder until the car crashes.

Someone is shouting “get out of the car” but in the other video there’s an ICE truck driving towards them shouting “get the fuck out of the way” IIRC.

That about right?
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She does reverse first and anyone who drives will know why, to create the angle to pull away without hitting him, if she wanted to run him down she'd just put her foot on the gas and go for him, clearest case of excessive force as you'll see imo.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 5:25 PM
  • #16,288
tisza said:
Little interest from US oil companies in re-investing in Venezuela but Trump's convinced there would be.
Maybe some companies aren't interested atm but Trump has been convinced that there is a fortune under Greenland that US should have. When he first mentioned annexing Greenland (during his first term) it was to do with its wealth - not for security.
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Both are probably being done because there are opportunities for him and his cronies to extract money for themselves.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 5:57 PM
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Sick Boy said:
Both are probably being done because there are opportunities for him and his cronies to extract money for themselves.
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South America then the Caribbean
 
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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • Yesterday at 6:38 PM
  • #16,290
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Now dabbling in the idea of bombing Mexico.

Trump suggests U.S. military will hit cartels on ‘land’ in Mexico

President Donald Trump's comments on Fox News come less than a week after land strikes in Venezuela and the capture of its leader, Nicolás Maduro.
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That should make the World Cup interesting, bombing another host nation.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Yesterday at 6:53 PM
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djr8369 said:
It looks like she’s looking over her shoulder to reverse then goes to move forwards and he’s walked in front of the car as she looks forwards. He shoots immediately causing her to involuntarily accelerate harder until the car crashes.

Someone is shouting “get out of the car” but in the other video there’s an ICE truck driving towards them shouting “get the fuck out of the way” IIRC.

That about right?
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That's the way I see it. She's looking behind as she reverses and when she pulls forward again the guys walked in front of her car, which she doesn't expect. And his almost instantaneous reaction is to shoot the driver, causing it to look even worse. Now of course a driver should ensure their path is clear before moving, but we've all put a car in gear and rolled forward after reversing without looking when we feel sure there's no-one in front of the car. If it was her intention to run him over, she could have done it far more easily a number of times before the incident.

The main fault is with the man being far too willing to fire his gun.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 6:54 PM
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
That's the way I see it. She's looking behind as she reverses and when she pulls forward again the guys walked in front of her car, which she doesn't expect. And his almost instantaneous reaction is to shoot the driver, causing it to look even worse. Now of course a driver should ensure their path is clear before moving, but we've all put a car in gear and rolled forward after reversing without looking when we feel sure there's no-one in front of the car. If it was her intention to run him over, she could have done it far more easily a number of times before the incident.

The main fault is with the man being far too willing to fire his gun.
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Well there won’t even be an investigation it looks like. If you work for Trump’s goons you can murder US citizens and escape even just someone looking in to why you did it.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Yesterday at 7:01 PM
  • #16,293
CCFCSteve said:
I’m not sure if they/we could’ve done much else to be honest. It was imperative that the US didn’t walk away from Ukraine completely.

Been saying for a long time NATO/Europe basically outsourced its defence to the US for way too long. That leaves us exposed. Even after the Ukraine war started many didn’t contribute the 2% of gdp on defence and as has been discussed on here before have continued to chuck billions at Russia for energy

The stance has at least bought NATO/europe some time to get their shit together.
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But for much of that time the US has relished being the main player of NATO. They want to lead it, they want to be in charge of operations. They want to prevent other nations having nuclear weapons, which potentially leaves those nations vulnerable so as part of that you have to subsidise their protection - otherwise what's in it for them?

As much as we and others may have liked not having to spend as much on defence due to the US picking up the slack, the US have enjoyed having that status just as much. No-one in NATO has forced them to spend the amount they have on their military or the protection of NATO allies - they've done it because they want to because they like to be important and throw their weight around.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Yesterday at 7:03 PM
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well there won’t even be an investigation it looks like. If you work for Trump’s goons you can murder US citizens and escape even just someone looking in to why you did it.
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Oh, I was never expecting there to be. And if there was it would definitely have resulted in the person responsible being exonerated (or probably even rewarded) while the woman killed would have been put down as an enemy of the state. I mean, that's the narrative Trump has put forward since it happened.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 7:47 PM
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BodicoteSkyBlue said:
That should make the World Cup interesting, bombing another host nation.
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You can’t take him literally
 

Farmer Jim

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  • Yesterday at 8:33 PM
  • #16,296
BodicoteSkyBlue said:
That should make the World Cup interesting, bombing another host nation.
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For the life of me, I can`t think of any reason other than family or business, why anyone would want to go to America right now tbh.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 10:35 PM
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President of Peace is bombing Syria now.

Is he trying to set a record for how many countries you can threaten or bomb?
 
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SomersetSB

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  • Today at 9:09 AM
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I’m just waiting for the pro Palestine mob to start waving their anti ayatollah banners and the impending slaughter of innocent people in Iran.
I won’t hold my breath!!
 
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chiefdave

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  • Today at 9:47 AM
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SomersetSB said:
I’m just waiting for the pro Palestine mob to start waving their anti ayatollah banners and the impending slaughter of innocent people in Iran.
I won’t hold my breath!!
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Out of interest where have you seen people against the genocide of Palestinians expressing their support for the slaughter of Iranians?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Today at 9:53 AM
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SomersetSB said:
I’m just waiting for the pro Palestine mob to start waving their anti ayatollah banners and the impending slaughter of innocent people in Iran.
I won’t hold my breath!!
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I would think most if not all “pro” Palestinians mob type would see the peoples of Iran struggles against a tyrant as the same thing as the Palestine peoples struggle with a tyrant. Just because one of the tyrants happens to be a Muslim doesn’t tend to change your basic belief of people being able to live their lives in peace and without persecution regardless of the architects of that persecution.

Iranian people in my experience are some of the friendliest and most giving people in the world. I’m not talking about the government and the remaining true believers in the Islamic revaluation, I’m talking about ordinary people of Iran. I for one welcome the removal of the dictatorship and Iran finding democracy. People forget or are too young to remember that prior to the Islamic know but Iran was a a modern progressive country where Christians and Muslims lived peacefully and people were not forced to live to a hard extreme doctrine of Islam. The Islamic revolution was a Trojan horse to overthrow the Shah with promises of democracy.

You really don’t seem to understand that this isn’t about a closed mindset of these are our people everyone else is the enemy, it’s not an absolute. It’s a basic principle of doing right by the majority. The people of Iran do not deserve the government they have, the people of Palestine deserve to not be bombed indiscriminately by an invading force looking to cleanse them so they can take their land. This really isn’t the gotcha you think it is. By a long shot.
 
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SomersetSB

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  • Today at 10:36 AM
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chiefdave said:
Out of interest where have you seen people against the genocide of Palestinians expressing their support for the slaughter of Iranians?
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I said I’m waiting for the pro Palestine mob to be out protesting against the Ayatollah and his mob slaughtering innocent people, if you read my post correctly!
 

chiefdave

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  • Today at 10:39 AM
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SomersetSB said:
I said I’m waiting for the pro Palestine mob to be out protesting against the Ayatollah and his mob slaughtering innocent people, if you read my post correctly!
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Protester climbs on to balcony of Iranian embassy in London - BBC News
 
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The United States has urged its citizens to leave Venezuela immediately amid reports that armed paramilitaries are trying to track down US citizens, one week after the capture of the South American country’s president, Nicolás Maduro
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