Hobo
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Lati and Ayari can. You don't necessarily have to play two holding DM:s. There are all sorts of options.
The squad is small we all know that. But you can never cover for every possible injury and eventuality.
Lati and Ayari can. You don't necessarily have to play two holding DM:s. There are all sorts of options.My days, what is it with this forum?
Palmer, O’Hare and possibly Ayari are not CDM’s. Completely different role to one that Kelly would play. So not relevant.
Allen the only one who would play there but is currently not fit due to a heart issue.
I meant in terms of the squad. We were bloody lucky that Gyo wasn’t injured last season.Sounds a bit like playing with 10 men. Hopefully Sheaf and Eccles combined can offer as much as Hamer did. Crazy logic.
Yeah fairs, I suppose he must be half decent if Robins thinks he is but the £5m valuation puts me off. People say we shouldn’t be frivolous with our cash when spending it on a quality CM but then are sound with £5m on some geezer from league one(Not saying that’s you btw, just saying some people have argued we don’t need another CM and should save the cash, which I completely disagree with.)
I don't think we'd have coped with Maguire or Walker upfront...I meant in terms of the squad. We were bloody lucky that Gyo wasn’t injured last season.
Certainly were. Is always the danger on relying on one / two players, so I'd rather see us a little worse team wise for a bit until we click, in exchange for having more players at a better level to kick on from.I meant in terms of the squad. We were bloody lucky that Gyo wasn’t injured last season.
Lati and Ayari can. You don't necessarily have to play two holding DM:s. There are all sorts of options.
The squad is small we all know that. But you can never cover for every possible injury and eventuality.
Presumably in a lot of cases... First question realistically will be "How much are you offering?"We are not Manchester United. We are not Chelsea. Players will not just swoon and sign for us. We do not have the same pull as the big clubs. We approach a player and his club. First question will be "Who are you again ?". Second "Which league do you play in ?". Okay, identification established. Now can we offer this potential signing European football ? Can we offer the chance to play against the top players in England ? What can we offer ?
If the player is even interested in a move, we move onto finances. Can we afford the wages without breaking our own wage structure ? How much do the club want in compensation/transfer fee ? Oh, we sold Hamer for £15m recently, so you have a lot of money to spend. Prices just went up. Is DK willing to pay over the odds for a rank and file player ? It's not as easy as armchair fans think.
I can understand the frustration as a lot of this is done behind the scenes and us fans rarely hear anything. But I think it's unfair to say MR, DK and the recruitment team will be sitting back or haven't been putting in enough effort. Not all leads go anywhere. We've been lucky and got 11 players in since July. But it's only 3 weeks since we sold Hamer. And now we're getting closer to a brick wall. Like MR has said today, if a club sells now, they have little chance of getting cover so they're less likely to sell. So clubs are holding their ground more and more (like Barnsley with Kitching).
If we don't get anyone today, it won't be for lack of trying on behalf of the club.
still doesn't make sense. 2 players to do the job of 1 in a squad? I get it that Gyo was impressive, but i'd just like a man for man replacement rather than combining 2 and hoping they will both be half of the player........I meant in terms of the squad. We were bloody lucky that Gyo wasn’t injured last season.
Currently three of our four top scorers from last season aren't playing for us - that's a lot of goals to replace!My one concern is replacing hamers goals
I’d rather have Gyokeres than Morris, would rather Hamer than Nakamba. But I’d ultimately prefer top flight to this division any time.Certainly were. Is always the danger on relying on one / two players, so I'd rather see us a little worse team wise for a bit until we click, in exchange for having more players at a better level to kick on from.
Unfortunately replacing someone like Gyo man for man is extremely tough and out of our budget.still doesn't make sense. 2 players to do the job of 1 in a squad? I get it that Gyo was impressive, but i'd just like a man for man replacement rather than combining 2 and hoping they will both be half of the player........
Maybe not explaining my point well enough. What we lose in not having the best forward we’ve seen since 2001 we make up for in not relying so heavily on a single player.still doesn't make sense. 2 players to do the job of 1 in a squad? I get it that Gyo was impressive, but i'd just like a man for man replacement rather than combining 2 and hoping they will both be half of the player........
I don't think it's easy to get promoted unless you have a few players who are well above the standard. Yes you need to be lucky that they don't get injured. But I feel you need someone who leads in terms of quality and it raises the standard of the other players. In this respect I feel we have missed a trick in not bringing in more Premier league loans in this window, with the extra quality they bring.Certainly were. Is always the danger on relying on one / two players, so I'd rather see us a little worse team wise for a bit until we click, in exchange for having more players at a better level to kick on from.
Can't be bothered to go over same arguments again tbh but the idea that literally every single player out there that is capable of coming in and doing well in our midfield is out of our price range is nonsense. If we are now 7 players short of what Robins originally wanted i think its fair to say we've dropped the ball a bit...Since when did "hoping we get ten in" turn to promising we get ten in? I'm pretty sure they haven't just sat around with their thumbs up their arses. Sometimes it just doesn't work out unless you're prepared to bend over and accept the inflated fees that other teams are demanding.
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It was clear and is a reasonable opinion. I just don't agree and suspect Greggs doesn't either.Maybe not explaining my point well enough. What we lose in not having the best forward we’ve seen since 2001 we make up for in not relying so heavily on a single player.
Sure if a like for like Gyo replacement existed we’d have gone for him, but so would most teams.
People are just over reacting in what is early in an extensive rebuild. It was never going to be completed in this window.Everyone’s forgetting we should have a greater attacking/creative threat out wide this season….as well as players like ayari, palmer, sheaf and ohare to come back. Hardly a team of uncreative cloggers. Just hasn’t quite clicked yet
My one concern is replacing hamers goals but again, a firing front two plus the above lot chipping in, hopefully we’ll be good and have cash in bank for the right Jan or summer Hamer replacement signing
Edit - plus Allen when back as possible box to box and Sakamoto !
Fair enough and I can see the other side of the argument too.It was clear and is a reasonable opinion. I just don't agree and suspect Greggs doesn't either.
Sheaf and Ayari should be fine. Sheaf is a quality player and Ayari hasn't signed for Brighton out of chance.If we sign Kitching for 5 million that seems like we've had our pants pulled down to be honest. Although that part of the pitch in theory should now be very strong. If we have money for that and a couple of decent central midfielders alongside then it would probably wouldn't be a problem to accept whatsoever, but so far it doesn't looks like the will happen.
Much of our squad is good, but goals across the team does genuinely concern me quite a lot. The midfield in particular don't contribute anywhere near enough, and unless that drastically improves it will be hard for us to reach that higher level I think. I can deal with the loss of Gyokeres because we've signed in theory two capable strikers, but losing Hamer is tough when we haven't got anyone in, particularly who can provide us with a decent number of goal/assists in return, in what is already a pretty goal shy team.
Sheaf and Ayari should be fine. Sheaf is a quality player and Ayari hasn't signed for Brighton out of chance.
Sheaf and Ayari should be fine. Sheaf is a quality player and Ayari hasn't signed for Brighton out of chance.
We cant just magic a like for like replacement, we need to develop one, we will also have to change how we play to suit new repalcements, which we are still learning to do, Simms isnt going to give you the running of channels and chasing long balls Vik did, but once we work out how best to use him he will develop in to a good striker, we also broke our Club record transfer fee on another striker, cant ask for more than that.still doesn't make sense. 2 players to do the job of 1 in a squad? I get it that Gyo was impressive, but i'd just like a man for man replacement rather than combining 2 and hoping they will both be half of the player........
Ones left footed the other right footed.Why sign kitchin for 5 million surely we could of got mcnally for that.
If we'd signed mcnally we'd still need a LCBWhy sign kitchin for 5 million surely we could of got mcnally for that.
Exactly, the arseholes are making themselves known.We've spent more money than we could have dreamed of and all we get is bitching.
Acl already?Kitchings done
still doesn't make sense. 2 players to do the job of 1 in a squad? I get it that Gyo was impressive, but i'd just like a man for man replacement rather than combining 2 and hoping they will both be half of the player........
When what we need is Kitching!We've spent more money than we could have dreamed of and all we get is bitching.
Are they going to shock you with a surprise signing also?Kitchings done
Bathrooms nextKitchings done
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