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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,786
Tommo72 said:
Oh please...

I cba to get into the same debates, clearly attempts to silence him and actually him and his family have been threatened countless times. When has he encouraged violence? Show me...

A couple of years ago I had no opinion on him and I’m hardly a staunch follower but he’s not the complete monster some people make him out to be.

No doubt it’s Owen Jones for you ah?
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Wasn’t he finally banned from Facebook after posting “calling on people to make war against Muslims “?
 

Tommo72

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,787
martcov said:
He has a criminal record involving fraud and violence. Whatever your views, he is an offender and he is violent. He is also making a fortune out of the mugs who follow him. No hero. Just a thug on a good earner.
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I agree about his past, it’s well documented.

I think he’s made huge steps to try and change his profile etc and this has obviously been key in helping drive his following etc.

He makes some sense and he’s been clever in highlighting a number of individuals and challenging on a number of fronts - hence the need for him to be silenced. Many will always be quick to focus on his past just like Sky News amongst many always feel the need to call him the ‘ex EDL leader’....

Clearly his appeal has grown across a much wider audience than many expected.
 
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Tommo72

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  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,788
skybluetony176 said:
Wasn’t he finally banned from Facebook after posting “calling on people to make war against Muslims “?
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I’m not sure Tony? Not aware of that.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,789
Tommo72 said:
I’m not sure Tony? Not aware of that.
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EDL founder Tommy Robinson banned from Facebook and Instagram
Tommy Robinson permanently banned from Twitter
YouTube restricts Tommy Robinson channel
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,790
He might be a bit of a prick, but it's amazing what dirt people try and throw up when they don't like what someone says.
 
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Cov City Daytrader 87

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,791
martcov said:
And just for balance:

Tommy Robinson is a far-right, Islamophobic extremist. Here’s why. – HOPE not hate
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Ah yes Hope not Hate very decent people...…

Until I came across this youtube video exposing the truth about the group.

 
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Tommo72

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,792
chiefdave said:
EDL founder Tommy Robinson banned from Facebook and Instagram
Tommy Robinson permanently banned from Twitter
YouTube restricts Tommy Robinson channel
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I followed him on Twitter and I can’t ever recall seeing anything overly controversial. He was very open and transparent and regularly communicated via videos etc. He actually did a lot of positive things for communities and individuals too, I guess many won’t be aware of this.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,793
skybluetony176 said:
Wasn’t he finally banned from Facebook after posting “calling on people to make war against Muslims “?
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Where did he say that out of interest?
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,794
Tommo72 said:
Oh please...

I cba to get into the same debates, clearly attempts to silence him and actually him and his family have been threatened countless times. When has he encouraged violence? Show me...

A couple of years ago I had no opinion on him and I’m hardly a staunch follower but he’s not the complete monster some people make him out to be.

No doubt it’s Owen Jones for you ah?
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The bloke went to a muslim area and claimed everybody who lived there was an 'enemy combatant'.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,795
Cov City Daytrader 87 said:
Ah yes Hope not Hate very decent people...…

Until I came across this youtube video exposing the truth about the group.

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Hope not hate recently uncovered a plot by Tommys mates national action to assassinate a democratically elected MP, (Rosie Cooper).
It then turned out that the guy who was going to go through with it was a paedophile.
I congratulate them and hope they keep up the good work.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,796
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Where did he say that out of interest?
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Tommy Robinson banned from Facebook and Instagram

It seems his final warning was for post calling on people to terrorise and behead those who follow the Qur’an
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,797
skybluetony176 said:
Tommy Robinson banned from Facebook and Instagram

It seems his final warning was for post calling on people to terrorise and behead those who follow the Qur’an
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It's all about mySpace though. Tom is still his friend.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,798
No coincidence his following is going up when he's having millions pumped towards him from the fascist white supremacist Bannon.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,799
Cov City Daytrader 87 said:
Ah yes Hope not Hate very decent people...…

Until I came across this youtube video exposing the truth about the group.

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Wasn’t windows on the world the restaurant at the top of the World Trade Center? Smelling a right wing conspiracy promoter straight away. They seem to attack anyone on the left or just generally anyone who isn’t of the mind set of the likes of Trump and Yaxley-Lennon looking at their other publications. Ironically accusing them of behaving like Trump and Yaxley-Lennon supporters.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,800
Tommo72 said:
I followed him on Twitter and I can’t ever recall seeing anything overly controversial. He was very open and transparent and regularly communicated via videos etc. He actually did a lot of positive things for communities and individuals too, I guess many won’t be aware of this.
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Tommy Robinson 'warned he could be breaking electoral law' at his MEP campaign launch
 

Tommo72

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,801
martcov said:
Tommy Robinson 'warned he could be breaking electoral law' at his MEP campaign launch
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I did smile when I saw this....I’m sure that can of coke and cheeseburger will make all the difference lol
 
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duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,802
Tommo72 said:
Oh please...

I cba to get into the same debates, clearly attempts to silence him and actually him and his family have been threatened countless times. When has he encouraged violence? Show me...

A couple of years ago I had no opinion on him and I’m hardly a staunch follower but he’s not the complete monster some people make him out to be.

No doubt it’s Owen Jones for you ah?
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Evidence please. I've pointed to a well researched argument that shows any number of instances where he's either been involved in violence or implied that it's coming to those he doesn't like. Where is your proof other than in your head?

So prove that the 'state' has tried to threaten or silence him (other than when he goes beyond the bounds of the law) or accept that you're basing your opinion on prejudice rather than facts. You may not be a staunch follower, but you're certainly an enabler if jyoure willing to come on here and defend him in the face of all of the available evidence.

Try thinking for yourself rather than just falling for the lazy dog-whistle rhetoric that Robinson spouts; maybe a bit of basic research wouldn't go amiss, eh.
 
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Tommo72

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  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,803
duffer said:
Evidence please. I've pointed to a well researched argument that shows any number of instances where he's either been involved in violence or implied that it's coming to those he doesn't like. Where is your proof other than in your head?

So prove that the 'state' has tried to threaten or silence him (other than when he goes beyond the bounds of the law) or accept that you're basing your opinion on prejudice rather than facts. You may not be a staunch follower, but you're certainly an enabler if jyoure willing to come on here and defend him in the face of all of the available evidence.

Try thinking for yourself rather than just falling for the lazy dog-whistle rhetoric that Robinson spouts; maybe a bit of basic research wouldn't go amiss, eh.
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What an utter load of tosh....condescending and typical of the people that dislike him. I cba to have a debate I’ve had so many times before. We have different views clearly. I have followed him from a distance for over two years and he’s changed my view but I also disagree with elements of what he’s said, stands for etc

I’m perfectly capable of thinking for myself thanks, what a shit comment. When you revert to comments like that’s you’re not worth bothering with.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,804
Tommo72 said:
What an utter load of tosh....condescending and typical of the people that dislike him. I cba to have a debate I’ve had so many times before. We have different views clearly. I have followed him from a distance for over two years and he’s changed my view but I also disagree with elements of what he’s said, stands for etc

I’m perfectly capable of thinking for myself thanks, what a shit comment. When you revert to comments like that’s you’re not worth bothering with.
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Yeah, people asking for factual evidence is shit. The whole discussion nowadays is about fake news and you can say what you want. Then come these people who ask you to back things up....
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,805
Tommo72 said:
I did smile when I saw this....I’m sure that can of coke and cheeseburger will make all the difference lol
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Yes it does. There are laws to stop people enticing voters with giveaways. You allow cheeseburgers. Then the next candidate gives away 2 cheeseburgers and 2 cokes. And so it goes upwards. All sorts of bribes and enticements. Which is why it is a total ban. Nothing to do with Tommy being a victim.
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,806
Tommo72 said:
I agree about his past, it’s well documented.

I think he’s made huge steps to try and change his profile etc and this has obviously been key in helping drive his following etc.

He makes some sense and he’s been clever in highlighting a number of individuals and challenging on a number of fronts - hence the need for him to be silenced. Many will always be quick to focus on his past just like Sky News amongst many always feel the need to call him the ‘ex EDL leader’....

Clearly his appeal has grown across a much wider audience than many expected.
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They should be called the "so called EDL" in the interest of fairness
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,807
skybluetony176 said:
Tommy Robinson banned from Facebook and Instagram

It seems his final warning was for post calling on people to terrorise and behead those who follow the Qur’an
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That's not really evidence he said to wage war on all Muslims is it?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,808
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
That's not really evidence he said to wage war on all Muslims is it?
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All Muslims follow to varying extents the Qur'an
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,809
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
That's not really evidence he said to wage war on all Muslims is it?
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What isn’t?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,810
fernandopartridge said:
All Muslims follow to varying extents the Qur'an
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skybluetony176 said:
What isn’t?
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It's a very poor attempt at trying to be outraged over something instead of having to debate the points he highlights over and over about Islam.

All it does is make his arguments stronger, even if he is a pillock.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,811
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It's a very poor attempt at trying to be outraged over something instead of having to debate the points he highlights over and over about Islam.

All it does is make his arguments stronger, even if he is a pillock.
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He doesn’t really have an argument though. Calling people to war against Islam isn’t an argument, calling for the followers of the Quran to be terrorised and beheaded isn’t an argument, his act of pretending he’s exposing peadophile gangs in the Muslim community isn’t an argument, pretending there’s a mosque in a prison and he’s been deliberately placed in a cell with no bed (but a TV apparently) isn’t an argument. I’m yet to hear him make an argument on any subject. He doesn’t have any answers. All he does is whip up morons into a frenzy spouting hate at a minority.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,812
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It's a very poor attempt at trying to be outraged over something instead of having to debate the points he highlights over and over about Islam.

All it does is make his arguments stronger, even if he is a pillock.
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I've aid it before and i'll say it again, there are far more erudite and knowledgeable people highlighting issues within Muslim communities, (Sam Harris, Douglas Murray, Ayan Hirsi Ali, Majid Nawaz to name a few).
No need to debate with a person like robinson.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,813
martcov said:
Yes it does. There are laws to stop people enticing voters with giveaways. You allow cheeseburgers. Then the next candidate gives away 2 cheeseburgers and 2 cokes. And so it goes upwards. All sorts of bribes and enticements. Which is why it is a total ban. Nothing to do with Tommy being a victim.
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It’s adding fuel to the fire though and showing that there is significantly greater scrutiny around him which legitimises his victim and anti establishment rhetoric

I’m the end he should and must stand - he should not have had a Facebook ban either. The BNP collapsed once griffin had some legitimacy as he was exposed in all his “glory” and the same should happen here
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,814
Grendel said:
It’s adding fuel to the fire though and showing that there is significantly greater scrutiny around him which legitimises his victim and anti establishment rhetoric

I’m the end he should and must stand - he should not have had a Facebook ban either. The BNP collapsed once griffin had some legitimacy as he was exposed in all his “glory” and the same should happen here
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Any other candidates giving away things would get the same problems. I have said that he should be allowed to stand. If anything it broadens the discussion. People like myself have to vote now ( I do anyway ), but too many take it for granted that we elect people who will continue roughly along the same lines. The BNP died because of Farage and UKIP. I read their website a couple of times and their main concern was not the centrists, but Farage. He was preaching the same message, at least in part. A Facebook ban is a joke when The Republican Party can still spout the same message. They wouldn’t dare ban them. The EU allows me a choice of 40 candidates. A great improvement on the usual selection in the UK GE.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,815
Cov City Daytrader 87 said:
Ah yes Hope not Hate very decent people...…

Until I came across this youtube video exposing the truth about the group.

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Yet another non football related post
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,816
skybluetony176 said:
Wasn’t windows on the world the restaurant at the top of the World Trade Center? Smelling a right wing conspiracy promoter straight away. They seem to attack anyone on the left or just generally anyone who isn’t of the mind set of the likes of Trump and Yaxley-Lennon looking at their other publications. Ironically accusing them of behaving like Trump and Yaxley-Lennon supporters.
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He never posts about football and posts weird YouTube conspiracy videos, including videos by someone claiming that the iPhone was going to bring the antichrist to Australia. Funnily enough he always pops up when a thread about Trump or Robinson appears.
 
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Cov City Daytrader 87

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  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,817
Sick Boy said:
He never posts about football and posts weird YouTube conspiracy videos, including videos by someone claiming that the iPhone was going to bring the antichrist to Australia. Funnily enough he always pops up when a thread about Trump or Robinson appears.
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If it's about me then you'll find I've posted in the football forum in the past. So you obviously don't know me very well.
 
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Westendlad

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  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,818
skybluetony176 said:
Wasn’t he finally banned from Facebook after posting “calling on people to make war against Muslims “?
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Nope...
 

Westendlad

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2019
  • #1,819
So apart from the expected response from the usual middle class lefties lot everyone's happy then....
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 27, 2019
  • #1,820
Westendlad said:
So apart from the expected response from the usual middle class lefties lot everyone's happy then....
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You have zero evidence that those opposed to him on this forum are middle class.
 
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