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Captain Dart

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Brighton Sky Blue

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OK, so the method of inactivation of live influenza virus, once it has been isolated from eggs or cell cultures, is conducted by a technique which has been "validated", as it is called. These validation tests have been conducted for decades, and are proven (by subsequent, very sensitive attempts to use the virus to infect cells) to destroy the ability of the virus to infect. The likelihood of these well-established techniques to allow viable virus to survive is effectively zero.

In the live attenuated vaccine (which is given almost exclusively children aged between 2 and 18), the virus backbone is based on a natural variant that only replicates in cold temperatures around 25C, which are found in the nose (hence the reason for giving it as a nasal spray). It is biologically incapable of infecting cells and replicating at 37C, the temperature in the lungs which is the only place in the body where flu infection can occur. So while it can generate an immune response and fight off actual infections, it can't itself cause flu.

In the recombinant form of the vaccine (which is given mainly to over 65s and younger susceptible people), some of the important components of the virus (usually the H part - standing for haemagglutinin - of the so-called H3N2 "super-flu" strain, for example) are produced in insect cells, then purified and administered to induce an immune response to the whole virus. There is absolutely nothing about these purified proteins that can cause a flu infection in any scenario.

Hope that is clear - sorry if it is still quite complicated.
He’s the forum’s very own David Icke, better off not wasting your time.
 

Captain Dart

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He’s the forum’s very own David Icke, better off not wasting your time.
What is your actual basis for belief?

•To eliminate discomfort from the world being difficult to understand, eliminating all ambiguity.
•To seek out the comfort of belonging to a group.
•To validate one’s own ego and be “right about the world.”
•To gain power over others by having your truth dictate the flow of society.

Your close minded attitude precedes you.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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What is your actual basis for belief?

•To eliminate discomfort from the world being difficult to understand, eliminating all ambiguity.
•To seek out the comfort of belonging to a group.
•To validate one’s own ego and be “right about the world.”
•To gain power over others by having your truth dictate the flow of society.

Your close minded attitude precedes you.
Peer reviewed science is the best shot we have at understanding how the world works. Show me something that gives better results and I’ll listen.
 

Captain Dart

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Peer reviewed science is the best shot we have at understanding how the world works. Show me something that gives better results and I’ll listen.
There are plenty of voices that are being silenced particularly where commercial profitability is at stake.


You'll notice that most dissenting voices are from retired academics for to swim against the tide invites career suicide. One favourite technique is to write an abstract that supports the orthodox POV but if the data is examined carefully it can very often show otherwise.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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There are plenty of voices that are being silenced particularly where commercial profitability is at stake.


You'll notice that most dissenting voices are from retired academics for to swim against the tide invites career suicide. One favourite technique is to write an abstract that supports the orthodox POV but if the data is examined carefully it can very often show otherwise.
I and others work very hard to carry out experiments which prove or disprove hypotheses, to levels of scrutiny that you generally don't get in other disciplines because that's the standard that's collectively become the norm. Then there's people like you who rock up and think you know better because another conspiracist online told you something and that trumps years of hard work.

It's why I talk to you the way I do because I frankly find it deeply insulting. I don't know what you did/do for a living but I wouldn't go shitting all over it as a layperson pretending to know better with no experience in whatever it is.
 

Captain Dart

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I and others work very hard to carry out experiments which prove or disprove hypotheses, to levels of scrutiny that you generally don't get in other disciplines because that's the standard that's collectively become the norm. Then there's people like you who rock up and think you know better because another conspiracist online told you something and that trumps years of hard work.

It's why I talk to you the way I do because I frankly find it deeply insulting. I don't know what you did/do for a living but I wouldn't go shitting all over it as a layperson pretending to know better with no experience in whatever it is.
Aww you're hurt, sadly I don't care.

I don't pretend to know better, I question everything and I can do so as much as I want to.
 

Captain Dart

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OffenhamSkyBlue

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I and others work very hard to carry out experiments which prove or disprove hypotheses, to levels of scrutiny that you generally don't get in other disciplines because that's the standard that's collectively become the norm. Then there's people like you who rock up and think you know better because another conspiracist online told you something and that trumps years of hard work.

It's why I talk to you the way I do because I frankly find it deeply insulting. I don't know what you did/do for a living but I wouldn't go shitting all over it as a layperson pretending to know better with no experience in whatever it is.
There was a sea-change in the scientific literature during the Covid-19 pandemic which saw the advent of "pre-publication" databases. That is, to see submitted data prior to it having been through the peer-review process. There was sort of a sound rationale for doing this, in that it was such a fast-moving field in a novel subject that it was regarded as being in the public interest to see the data.
However, i spent quite a lot of time, subsequently, looking back at those unreviewed papers, and there were a surprising number that never saw the light of day in true published form, including many which had been accepted as fact by professionals and public alike (e.g. the effectiveness against the virus of certain types of respiratory protection).
I'm sure conspiracy theorists might tell you that the "scientific establishment" had suppressed the publication of theories which went against the accepted norms of the time, and history shows that this does happen. But for it to have happened on such a scale as it did during the pandemic simply isn't credible. The more likely scenario, based on my experience of having over 40 papers (challenging an alternate hypothesis against a null hypothesis) undergoing proper scrutiny prior to publication, is that the data and/or their interpretation was a pile of poo, unworthy of publication.

The problem was that the Daily Mail and its like published this as being gospel, which the dwellers of Twitter, etc viewed as free-rein to criticise anyone who tried to challenge it.
 

Terry_dactyl

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The student that blocked my car in at the access to the back of my house. Meaning I was too late to go out for my appointment

I think it’s fair to say I ‘told them’ what I thought. Still got it.

My final angry words were…“If it fucking happens I will not be happy. This is me happy”.
 

Ccfc_Addy

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Booking travel in 2025. Trains, Flights Parking all designed to empty your wallet and drive you mad.

First they bump the prices around any school holiday.

Then they proceed gouge you for every 'extra', I personally fail to see how there is anything extra about wanting/needing to sit by your 13 yr old child... Apparently a fair price is another £65 each flight per passenger.

Train to the airport was £200 return until you get to checkout and realise that is specific tickets for specific trains/times if you want any flexibility it's nearly £400

Didn't help my mood when the Airline took the full cash instantly AND put a hold on my account for the same amount in error 🤬
omg we're trying to plan our annual holiday for next year and it's sending me to the fucking moon. every goddamned airline follows the ryanair model these days, if you have the nerve, the unmitigated gall, to want to take a bag with you and sit with your life partner the tickets nearly double in price!!
 

richnrg

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omg we're trying to plan our annual holiday for next year and it's sending me to the fucking moon. every goddamned airline follows the ryanair model these days, if you have the nerve, the unmitigated gall, to want to take a bag with you and sit with your life partner the tickets nearly double in price!!
maybe use it as an excuse to sit in peace on your own for a while :)
 

richnrg

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Sorry (as my annoyance is football related), but why have people recently started talking about a '3 game week'?

If you play every Saturday, that's a 'one game week' - i.e. a game every week.

How is it then, that if you also play on a Tuesday, that people start calling it a '3 game week'? Its not (you twats), its a 2 game week.
 

richnrg

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OK, so the method of inactivation of live influenza virus, once it has been isolated from eggs or cell cultures, is conducted by a technique which has been "validated", as it is called. These validation tests have been conducted for decades, and are proven (by subsequent, very sensitive attempts to use the virus to infect cells) to destroy the ability of the virus to infect. The likelihood of these well-established techniques to allow viable virus to survive is effectively zero.

In the live attenuated vaccine (which is given almost exclusively children aged between 2 and 18), the virus backbone is based on a natural variant that only replicates in cold temperatures around 25C, which are found in the nose (hence the reason for giving it as a nasal spray). It is biologically incapable of infecting cells and replicating at 37C, the temperature in the lungs which is the only place in the body where flu infection can occur. So while it can generate an immune response and fight off actual infections, it can't itself cause flu.

In the recombinant form of the vaccine (which is given mainly to over 65s and younger susceptible people), some of the important components of the virus (usually the H part - standing for haemagglutinin - of the so-called H3N2 "super-flu" strain, for example) are produced in insect cells, then purified and administered to induce an immune response to the whole virus. There is absolutely nothing about these purified proteins that can cause a flu infection in any scenario.

Hope that is clear - sorry if it is still quite complicated.
Bugger! That explains why the lovely nurse that gave me the flu jab asked if I was alergic to eggs. I thought she was flirting with me and planning my breakfast.
 

chiefdave

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Sorry (as my annoyance is football related), but why have people recently started talking about a '3 game week'?

If you play every Saturday, that's a 'one game week' - i.e. a game every week.

How is it then, that if you also play on a Tuesday, that people start calling it a '3 game week'? Its not (you twats), its a 2 game week.
Kick off times? I guess if you have a 5:30pm kick off one Saturday, then a midweek game, then a 12:30pm game the next Saturday you could argue 3 game week.

But this mainly seems to be PL managers moaning about what the EFL does on a regular basis despite the fact they've got far more resources at their disposal.
 

OffenhamSkyBlue

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Sorry (as my annoyance is football related), but why have people recently started talking about a '3 game week'?

If you play every Saturday, that's a 'one game week' - i.e. a game every week.

How is it then, that if you also play on a Tuesday, that people start calling it a '3 game week'? Its not (you twats), its a 2 game week.
Sunday wednesday saturday would be a 3-game week, in my view!
 

richnrg

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Tommo1993

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Yes, i agree, but my 'annoyance' is that people have started referring to Sat - Tues - Sat as a 3 game week. They even do it on the (excellent) 'That Cov Pod', so it's not just a premier league thing.


EDIT: and here's another example, posted in the last hour:

If you think about it in hours, then it’s a 3 game week to play Sat-Tue-Sat.
 

richnrg

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If you think about it in hours, then it’s a 3 game week to play Sat-Tue-Sat.
No it isn't (pretty sure you're on a wind up, but...)

Sat, Sun, Mon,Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat is 8 x 24 hours (i.e. 8 days)

so Sat-Tue-Sat is 3 games in 8 days

8 days isn't a week.

If you only play on Saturdays, you play once a week.

If you then play on one extra day (Tuesday), you play twice a week (not three times)
 
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Tommo1993

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No it isn't (pretty sure you're on a wind up, but...)

Sat, Sun, Mon,Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat is 8 x 24 hours (i.e. 8 days)

so Sat-Tue-Sat is 3 games in 8 days

8 days isn't a week.

If you only play on Saturdays, you play once a week.

If you then play on one extra day (Tuesday), you play twice a week (not three times)

7 x 24 =168.

3pm on Saturday 1 to 3pm on Saturday 2 is 168 hours, so if you think by the end of Saturday 1’s game, it’s 4:45. That puts you on only 166/167 hours by the start of Saturday 2’s game. Technicality at best, but it’s a 3 game week.
 

richnrg

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7 x 24 =168.

3pm on Saturday 1 to 3pm on Saturday 2 is 168 hours, so if you think by the end of Saturday 1’s game, it’s 4:45. That puts you on only 166/167 hours by the start of Saturday 2’s game. Technicality at best, but it’s a 3 game week.
so if you never play midweek games you play twice a week?
 

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