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Captain Dart

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Brighton Sky Blue

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OK, so the method of inactivation of live influenza virus, once it has been isolated from eggs or cell cultures, is conducted by a technique which has been "validated", as it is called. These validation tests have been conducted for decades, and are proven (by subsequent, very sensitive attempts to use the virus to infect cells) to destroy the ability of the virus to infect. The likelihood of these well-established techniques to allow viable virus to survive is effectively zero.

In the live attenuated vaccine (which is given almost exclusively children aged between 2 and 18), the virus backbone is based on a natural variant that only replicates in cold temperatures around 25C, which are found in the nose (hence the reason for giving it as a nasal spray). It is biologically incapable of infecting cells and replicating at 37C, the temperature in the lungs which is the only place in the body where flu infection can occur. So while it can generate an immune response and fight off actual infections, it can't itself cause flu.

In the recombinant form of the vaccine (which is given mainly to over 65s and younger susceptible people), some of the important components of the virus (usually the H part - standing for haemagglutinin - of the so-called H3N2 "super-flu" strain, for example) are produced in insect cells, then purified and administered to induce an immune response to the whole virus. There is absolutely nothing about these purified proteins that can cause a flu infection in any scenario.

Hope that is clear - sorry if it is still quite complicated.
He’s the forum’s very own David Icke, better off not wasting your time.
 

Captain Dart

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He’s the forum’s very own David Icke, better off not wasting your time.
What is your actual basis for belief?

•To eliminate discomfort from the world being difficult to understand, eliminating all ambiguity.
•To seek out the comfort of belonging to a group.
•To validate one’s own ego and be “right about the world.”
•To gain power over others by having your truth dictate the flow of society.

Your close minded attitude precedes you.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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What is your actual basis for belief?

•To eliminate discomfort from the world being difficult to understand, eliminating all ambiguity.
•To seek out the comfort of belonging to a group.
•To validate one’s own ego and be “right about the world.”
•To gain power over others by having your truth dictate the flow of society.

Your close minded attitude precedes you.
Peer reviewed science is the best shot we have at understanding how the world works. Show me something that gives better results and I’ll listen.
 

Captain Dart

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Peer reviewed science is the best shot we have at understanding how the world works. Show me something that gives better results and I’ll listen.
There are plenty of voices that are being silenced particularly where commercial profitability is at stake.


You'll notice that most dissenting voices are from retired academics for to swim against the tide invites career suicide. One favourite technique is to write an abstract that supports the orthodox POV but if the data is examined carefully it can very often show otherwise.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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There are plenty of voices that are being silenced particularly where commercial profitability is at stake.


You'll notice that most dissenting voices are from retired academics for to swim against the tide invites career suicide. One favourite technique is to write an abstract that supports the orthodox POV but if the data is examined carefully it can very often show otherwise.
I and others work very hard to carry out experiments which prove or disprove hypotheses, to levels of scrutiny that you generally don't get in other disciplines because that's the standard that's collectively become the norm. Then there's people like you who rock up and think you know better because another conspiracist online told you something and that trumps years of hard work.

It's why I talk to you the way I do because I frankly find it deeply insulting. I don't know what you did/do for a living but I wouldn't go shitting all over it as a layperson pretending to know better with no experience in whatever it is.
 

Captain Dart

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I and others work very hard to carry out experiments which prove or disprove hypotheses, to levels of scrutiny that you generally don't get in other disciplines because that's the standard that's collectively become the norm. Then there's people like you who rock up and think you know better because another conspiracist online told you something and that trumps years of hard work.

It's why I talk to you the way I do because I frankly find it deeply insulting. I don't know what you did/do for a living but I wouldn't go shitting all over it as a layperson pretending to know better with no experience in whatever it is.
Aww you're hurt, sadly I don't care.

I don't pretend to know better, I question everything and I can do so as much as I want to.
 

Captain Dart

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