Taken in that context its fine... However you and I both know that it's not the context that most people use it in, they genuinely get irritated by the British flag and people who are passionate about their country.... Take dick chops in the replies for exampleFFS people have made me agree with Matt Chorley. This must never happen again.
By the same standard don't you think people who say "It's our flag, love it or leave the country" are out of their fucking minds?Taken in that context its fine... However you and I both know that it's not the context that most people use it in, they genuinely get irritated by the British flag and people who are passionate about their country.... Take dick chops in the replies for example View attachment 19217im sure he can tell David beckham, mo farah etc that theyve achieved nothing, 22 year soldiers with good pensions and a multitude of life experience, they've achieved nothing...
Normal people who just love their country, they've achieved nothing...
Crazy mindset
Ofcourse I do, but why are people always trying to pin the flag to dickheads when most ordinary working class decent people just love their country? Is it such an alien concept.By the same standard don't you think people who say "It's our flag, love it or leave the country" are out of their fucking minds?
It's just social media amplifying the worst of all sides.Ofcourse I do, but why are people always trying to pin the flag to dickheads when most ordinary working class decent people just love their country? Is it such an alien concept.
It's just social media amplifying the worst of all sides.
I have the best time at music festivals and a lot of it is being with mates, seeing live music and getting off my face but also I really love that I can't use my phone, just a little burner to find each other when we're lost. If social media was down for a month this country would be much better off.I know it is... I have no clue why I bother looking on it tbh... Said it for weeks now
British sports stars wave the flag from a very different starting point to the likes of Farage, Robinson and their disciples though and that’s what trigger people like this guy (whoever he is) and that’s why they ruin it for everyone else. It’s a reaction to an action. If the flag waving was used in the correct spirit everyone would be proud of it. It’s been hi jacked by racist, delusional British exceptionalisms, delusional nationalist etc including the Tories.Taken in that context its fine... However you and I both know that it's not the context that most people use it in, they genuinely get irritated by the British flag and people who are passionate about their country.... Take dick chops in the replies for example View attachment 19217im sure he can tell David beckham, mo farah etc that theyve achieved nothing, 22 year soldiers with good pensions and a multitude of life experience, they've achieved nothing...
Normal people who just love their country, they've achieved nothing...
Crazy mindset
If social media was down for a month this country would be much better off.
He's only happy training with ArsenalBiamou would be gutted, he'd have to start playing like a professional footballer. Conversely Sheaf would be delighted.
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What a prick.He's only happy training with Arsenal
No they don't ruin it for everybody else at all.British sports stars wave the flag from a very different starting point to the likes of Farage, Robinson and their disciples though and that’s what trigger people like this guy (whoever he is) and that’s why they ruin it for everyone else. It’s a reaction to an action. If the flag waving was used in the correct spirit everyone would be proud of it. It’s been hi jacked by racist, delusional British exceptionalisms, delusional nationalist etc including the Tories.
Put the horse before the cart. If you want to get angry about it get angry with those who bastardised the flag not those who have been turned away from it because of those.
Who remembers Cool Britannia. The children of Irish immigrants forming a band and flying the flag, the daughter of a Spanish woman wearing a Union Jack dress flying the flag. Everyone was proud of the flag then.
All we’ve got now is drool Britannia. A bunch of droolers waving a flag of a Union under the guise that makes you a patriot while voting to break the Union up accusing everyone who didn’t vote for it of being unpatriotic.
The last time this country looked United it was under Tony Blair. Tony fucking Blair. Look how low we’ve fallen. That’s what 10 years of the Tories and the politics of fear and division do to a nation. What a bunch of plebs we are.
It's dickheads appropriating it, i.e. the current cabinet, rather than people pinning it to them.Ofcourse I do, but why are people always trying to pin the flag to dickheads when most ordinary working class decent people just love their country? Is it such an alien concept.
He received a great deal of criticism for this for the reasons stated so makes perfect sense still.Your argument would make sense if this wasn't a picture View attachment 19220
He received criticism off the very kind of people calling people flag shaggers on social media...He received a great deal of criticism for this for the reasons stated so makes perfect sense still.
From oddballs. I think its a smart thing for him to do.He received a great deal of criticism for this for the reasons stated so makes perfect sense still.
Actually he did. After the war East Germany had its own national anthem and West for many years used other traditional German songs instead. When they did bring it back it’s never been brought back in full as the full lyrics sound too... well, too NAZI. So he absolutely did ruin it with nationalism and exceptionalism. There’s lessons in history if people want to pay attention. If they don’t we end up with nationalist running the country.No they don't ruin it for everybody else at all.
Its like saying Hitler ruined the German national anthem, did he? No..
Most people just love their country... It's the same around pretty much the whole world and their own countries...
They aren't Flag shaggers
I mean I wouldn't call this witch a flag shagger, and she's much more an extreme nationalist than many View attachment 19219
This isn't true Tony, the song used hasn't changed at all... Germany have used the same song since before world war 1, they've used 3 different verses or stanzas during this period... The whole song remains the same and nothing was alteredActually he did. After the war East Germany had its own national anthem and West for many years used other traditional German songs instead. When they did bring it back it’s never been brought back in full as the full lyrics sound too... well, too NAZI. So he absolutely did ruin it with nationalism and exceptionalism. There’s lessons in history if people want to pay attention. If they don’t we end up with nationalist running the country.
But Starmer got criticised for being in close proximity to the flag?It's not really aimed at just anyone in the proximity of a flag, more the kind of person who will use one to indicate a love for their country despite demonstrable contempt for a large number of its people.
But Starmer got criticised for being in close proximity to the flag?
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They only use one verse. They dropped 2 when they started using it again because it’s considered too imperialistic after the antics of the Nazis.This isn't true Tony, the song used hasn't changed at all... Germany have used the same song since before world war 1, they've used 3 different verses or stanzas during this period... The whole song remains the same and nothing was altered
Moral of the story... Who I like politically doesn't play a part in my love for my country.
They only use one verse. They dropped 2 when they started using it again because it’s considered too imperialistic after the antics of the Nazis.
And againI know they use only 1 verse, there are 3 different verses in the song and all three have been used at some point ... It's all still one song and nothing has been removed.
And again
Are you really arguing that Hitler didn’t ruin the German National anthem?
I actually said that they didn’t bring it back in full. Read the article. It tells you it wasn’t brought back until 1952 and on the proviso that only the third verse is used.No.. Your original post stated lines had been removed from the anthem... I pointed out the Whole song Was still the same, but now they use a different verse... And you're telling me What I told you back
So no, I'm Not saying Hitler didn't ruin the national anthem, I'm saying they still use the same song... Just a different verse
Ok fair enough.. They didn't bring back any of it then technically as they changed verse.I actually said that they didn’t bring it back in full. Read the article. It tells you it wasn’t brought back until 1952 and on the proviso that only the third verse is used.
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