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The Final Run In (1 Viewer)

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #71
Sky Blue Pete said:
For Sunderland to get 88 points they need to win 10 and draw 1 of their last 12 games.
Rotherham need to with 9 and draw 1 of 12 games
We need to win 9 and draw 1 of 13 games

if we all do that we deserve to go up automatically.

If Sunderland lose tonight they have to go unbeaten to the end of the season
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And because of that I think 84 is still sensible for automatics and that’s 8 wins out of 13 for us and 8 wins out of 12 for Rotherham and 9 out of 12 for Sunderland

For instance Peterborough to reach 84 need to win 10 out of 11
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #72
Not even nervous

 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #73
skybluesam66 said:
League One - Table calculator

one for you all to try
I had us 2nd on 85 points

you have to go back to previous weeks, to find the games that were initially postponed
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1 Coventry City 44 23 18 3 67:41 26 87
2 Rotherham United 44 25 11 8 83:43 40 86
3 Sunderland AFC 44 24 13 7 69:36 33 85
4 Peterborough United 44 25 8 11 92:47 45 83
5 Portsmouth FC 44 24 10 10 69:43 26 82
6 Wycombe Wanderers 44 22 13 9 59:48 11 79


Thats with us drawing rotheram Sunderland,gills,ipswhich,pboro and oxford

So 6 draws and 7 wins
 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #74
wingy said:
Can you expand some of these as they go out focus on phone screens.
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They all fit nicely on an iPad. I don't have the means to measure a phone screen.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #75
I think we’ll lose 2/3 more by the end of the season. Which will still be something like a club record for fewest defeats.
 
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Ricketts

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  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #76
How do you lose two thirds of a game?
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #77
Philosorapter said:
They all fit nicely on an iPad. I don't have the means to measure a phone screen.
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Ha thanks I've figured it out
Are we missing the one where it indicates the 3 ,scenarios based on the.?xg
 
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Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #78
Sky Blue Pete said:
For Sunderland to get 88 points they need to win 10 and draw 1 of their last 12 games.
Rotherham need to with 9 and draw 1 of 12 games
We need to win 9 and draw 1 of 13 games

if we all do that we deserve to go up automatically.

If Sunderland lose tonight they have to go unbeaten to the end of the season
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And have to play Rotherham last match.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #79
Magwitch said:
And have to play Rotherham last match.
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So let’s make sure we’re not 2 points behind both on the last day
 
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #80
Brighton Sky Blue said:
So let’s make sure we’re not 2 points behind both on the last day
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My son and I were discussing scenarios last night and we decided this was what we didn’t want. Imagine them only needing a draw to both get promoted. Ha ha.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #81
And us
Magwitch said:
And have to play Rotherham last match.
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Philosoraptor

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  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #82
wingy said:
Ha thanks I've figured it out
Are we missing the one where it indicates the 3 ,scenarios based on the.?xg
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Nothing to do with xG. Not a big fan of xG to be honest. My philosophy has always been that every position within a game has its own uniqueness. Whilst xG measures against trends, I'm a great believer in looking for the uniqueness in every position which increases the chances to win.

Zero sum and all that.

Whilst football is not zero sum by the nature of the game I would believe it has many characteristics of a zero sum game.

One side has the ball so they have the potential to attack and visa versa etc.

xG just seems to be a way to ground a beginning of what I would call an end game database by measuring a shots scoring potential etc.

Could be wrong though.
 
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RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #83
Johhny Blue said:
I for one am not talking about Oxford

Or Ipswich or Portsmouth or Fleetwood or Peterborough or Sunderland or Wycombe or Rotherham
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I admire your balls.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #84
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
My son and I were discussing scenarios last night and we decided this was what we didn’t want. Imagine them only needing a draw to both get promoted. Ha ha.
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Thing is if we were in that position we’d all have nothing against it. Let’s not give them the chance
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #85
RegTheDonk said:
I admire your balls.
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Admire what?
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #86
Philosorapter said:
Nothing to do with xG. Not a big fan of xG to be honest. My philosophy has always been that every position within a game has its own uniqueness. Whilst xG measures against trends, I'm a great believer in looking for the uniqueness in every position which increases the chances to win.

Zero sum and all that.

Whilst football is not a zero sum by the nature of the game I would believe it has many characteristics of a zero sum game.

One side has the ball so they have the potential to attack and visa versa etc.

xG just seems to be a way to ground a beginning of what I would call an end game database.
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Yeah you usually indicate win draw defeat numbers that will effect the current 1705.
So what's up for grabs?
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #87
Sky Blue Pete said:
For Sunderland to get 88 points they need to win 10 and draw 1 of their last 12 games.
Rotherham need to with 9 and draw 1 of 12 games
We need to win 9 and draw 1 of 13 games

if we all do that we deserve to go up automatically.

If Sunderland lose tonight they have to go unbeaten to the end of the season
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To be fair all 3 of us have won 9, drawn 2 and lost 1 of our last 12 games. Your above Scenario is not beyond the realms of realistic expectations

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #88
stupot07 said:
To be fair all 3 of us have won 9, drawn 2 and lost 1 of our last 12 games. Your above Scenario is not beyond the realms of realistic expectations

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
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True
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #89
wingy said:
Yeah you usually indicate win draw defeat numbers that will effect the current 1705.
So what's up for grabs?
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Rotherham is kind of interesting. They had a weighting on (1500) at the start of the season because they were new to the division. Also, given that they haven't drawn many games it's probably the one team which the system measures less accurately.
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #90
covcity4life said:
1 Coventry City 44 23 18 3 67:41 26 87
2 Rotherham United 44 25 11 8 83:43 40 86
3 Sunderland AFC 44 24 13 7 69:36 33 85
4 Peterborough United 44 25 8 11 92:47 45 83
5 Portsmouth FC 44 24 10 10 69:43 26 82
6 Wycombe Wanderers 44 22 13 9 59:48 11 79


Thats with us drawing rotheram Sunderland,gills,ipswhich,pboro and oxford

So 6 draws and 7 wins
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I like how we win it with 87 points. 87 is unlucky for some. But a lucky number for us!
 
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Gazolba

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #91
You can't assume games against lower-level teams will necessarily be easier.
The teams at the bottom will be scrapping to avoid relegation, which is just as much an incentive as trying to make the play-offs.
I still think our lack of goal-scoring could come back to bite us.
Sunderland are going to force their way into the top two, so we need to keep pace with them and Rotherham.
 

ccfcricoh

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #92
Gazolba said:
You can't assume games against lower-level teams will necessarily be easier.
The teams at the bottom will be scrapping to avoid relegation, which is just as much an incentive as trying to make the play-offs.
I still think our lack of goal-scoring could come back to bite us.
Sunderland are going to force their way into the top two, so we need to keep pace with them and Rotherham.
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I do agree with you, but, i think Tranmere, Southend and Bolton are already doomed and Wimbledon will be safe by the time we play them, so no teams scrapping for points.
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Feb 25, 2020
  • #93
RegTheDonk said:
I admire your balls.
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Easy there big 'Fella
 
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steve cooper

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2020
  • #94
Gazolba said:
You can't assume games against lower-level teams will necessarily be easier.
The teams at the bottom will be scrapping to avoid relegation, which is just as much an incentive as trying to make the play-offs.
I still think our lack of goal-scoring could come back to bite us.
Sunderland are going to force their way into the top two, so we need to keep pace with them and Rotherham.
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Who do we play that are likely to be involved in a relegation scrap?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2020
  • #95
Gynnsthetonic said:
People keep thinking Wycombe are going to fall away but in truth they haven't and have a favourable run in!
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They were out clear at the top of the table. They have lost 7 and drawn 1 in their last 13 games. They have scored 14 goals but let in 23 goals in this time. Yes just 16 points in the last 13 games and -9 goals.
 

Warwickhunt

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2020
  • #96
Gillingham holds the key methinks! The fat controller has got them working in a we shall not lose mindset and they play us, Rotherham & Sunderland.
 
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Frank Sidebottom

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2020
  • #97
Ricketts said:
How do you lose two thirds of a game?
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I'm sure I've heard Strachan say that before.... Possibly after this game.
COVENTRY 3 SUNDERLAND 2
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2020
  • #98
Looks better now
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 1, 2020
  • #99
So still 84 we need 20 from 11.

Rotherham - 22 from 10
Portsmouth - 25 from 11
Wycombe - 25 from 10
Sunderland - 26 from 10
Oxford - 27 from 10
Peterboro - 28 from 10

And teams are playing each other
 
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Frank Sidebottom

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2020
  • #100
Sky Blue Pete said:
So still 84 we need 20 from 11.

Rotherham - 22 from 10
Portsmouth - 25 from 11
Wycombe - 25 from 10
Sunderland - 26 from 10
Oxford - 27 from 10
Peterboro - 28 from 10

And teams are playing each other
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We'll get 25-30, No sweat.... might drop points at Wimbledon, But we'll be promoted by then.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2020
  • #101
Since the table was produced, we have 4 points from two games, Rotherham 2 points, Wycombe nil point and Sunderland 1 point (tee hee). And our four points were against two “red teams” ( as were Sunderland’s one). We are doing well.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Mar 1, 2020
  • #102
I wouldn't write Fleetwood out of the automatic promotion mix yet.
 

Mild-Mannered Janitor

Kindest Bloke on CCFC / Maker of CCFC Dreams
  • Mar 1, 2020
  • #103
Fleetwood have Ipswich midweek, let’s hope that’s a tough draw for both and I think Fleetwood have another tough one midweek the week after, they’re a canny tactical side, if they win those games then I think they could make close to autos.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2020
  • #104
Playing Ipswich after they've been through the battle with Fleetwood works in our favour no matter the result.
 
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Paxman II

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  • Mar 1, 2020
  • #105
Fleetwood, no chance. Ipswich have blown it. Wycombe, no chance.
I see Rotherham slipping up and think it will be Portsmouth or yes, Sunderland in behind us.
 
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