The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (19 Viewers)

[Evo1883]

It would seem their concerns are pretty fair.

It's what I expected the answer to your question would be tbh

 

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[NorthernWisdom]

I agree , but we don't have strong opposition, that's the real tragedy here

We don't have strong opposition if the response is move on!

 

[PVA]

I’ve always found PVA to be playing on something of a sticky wicket in these debates.

How so?

 

[Evo1883]

He's not a mate. He's a friend of my uncle (who sadly is a bit racist as well).

Not sure what your point is.

I dread to think what views your mates hold, if you have any of course.

Do you wish ill on your uncle too

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It's what I expected the answer to your question would be tbh

I just find it interesting that those in Gibraltar all clearly understood the possible consequences but those in Spain didn’t seem to give it as much thought.

 

[Evo1883]

We don't have strong opposition if the response is move on!

Oh you're waiting for Labour to come in and give you another vote on Europe.. like is said we need to move on

We need strong opposition here , I reckon European referendum isn't a vote winner anymore

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Oh you're waiting for Labour to come in and give you another vote on Europe.. like is aid we need to move on

What?!? I swear you're deciding that I'm the same person as PVA, and saying the same argument because whatever you're responding to isn't what I'm writing down!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

How so?

 

[Grendel]

I just find it interesting that those in Gibraltar all clearly understood the possible consequences but those in Spain didn’t seem to give it as much thought.

It’s not a nice place - I went to a pub there and the toilets hadn’t been cleaned

 

[Evo1883]

What?!? I swear you're deciding that I'm the same person as PVA, and saying the same argument because whatever you're responding to isn't what I'm writing down!

Well the only thing I said we need to move on with/past was the European referendum ..you bought it back up

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s not a nice place - I went to a pub there and the toilets hadn’t been cleaned

You’re not meant to take a piss from the top of the rock

 

[PVA]

Do you wish ill on your uncle too

I don't really have any affection for him as I never see him. I don't like his views on some things though.

He's not a fully blown racist like his mate. And he doesn't live in Spain. So he's a bit of an idiot, but not a total prick like his mate.

Unless he also shares those views in private, then fuck him. I don't have any time for racists, family or otherwise.

 

[PVA]

Oh, I see

 

[Grendel]

You’re not meant to take a piss from the top of the rock

those monkey boys do

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Well the only thing I said we need to move on with/past was the European referendum ..you bought it back up

So... you're happy for CvD, and me, and others, to bring up the shyster lies spun and the cockups that result from them then? Great! I'll move on from this then, and con tinue to like CvD's posts when he does just that!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

those monkey boys do

You’re from Hartlepool?

 

[Evo1883]

So... you're happy for CvD, and me, and others, to bring up the shyster lies spun and the cockups that result from them then? Great! I'll move on from this then, and con tinue to like CvD's posts when he does just that!

Do as you please , its an small online room full of people getting themselves worked up about something that can't be changed .

Hence the idea that moving on was probably for the best

I expect this thread will still be thriving in 2030 and the same 5 people will be shouting angrily about things, anything , small or large to take some form of comfort

 

[Grendel]

Do as you please , its an small online room full of people getting themselves worked up about something that can't be changed .

Hence the idea that moving on was probably for the best

Clint says we need to hold Rees Mogg to account as does NW. I have no evidence for what I am about to say but I don’t think Moggy Mogg bleeds sky blue and I don’t think he has an account on here

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Do as you please , its an small online room full of people getting themselves worked up about something that can't be changed .

Hence the idea that moving on was probably for the best

I expect this thread will still be thriving in 2030 and the same 5 people will be shouting angrily about things, anything , small or large to take some form of comfort

But that's not moving on from the need for a referendum. What you're saying there is not holding politicians accountable for their actions! No wonder the Tories keep winning, keep treating you and me like shit, but we move on and give them a free pass!

 

[Evo1883]

And to answer any incoming question ..i wony be shouting about the term flag shagger in 2030

 

[Grendel]

But that's not moving on from the need for a referendum. What you're saying there is not holding politicians accountable for their actions! No wonder the Tories keep winning, keep treating you and me like shit, but we move on and give them a free pass!

They don’t treat me like shit I’m perfectly happy thanks

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Clint says we need to hold Rees Mogg to account as does NW. I have no evidence for what I am about to say but I don’t think Moggy Mogg bleeds sky blue and I don’t think he has an account on here

There wouldn't be the need for any kind of debate if people agreed they were duplicitous shysters, and held them to account for it when the next opportunity came around...

 

[clint van damme]

Oh you're waiting for Labour to come in and give you another vote on Europe.. like is said we need to move on

We need strong opposition here , I reckon European referendum isn't a vote winner anymore

No-ones mentioned another referendum.
I would not vote for a party who put in in their manifesto.
That doesn't mean not calling out the problems that arise from it or people like Farage and Galloway who have caused mayhem and walked away.

 

[PVA]

"It's turned out to be an absolute disaster so let's move on from this monumental change to the fabric of our country that massively affects, so far very negatively, how we live, work and travel"

 

[Evo1883]

But that's not moving on from the need for a referendum. What you're saying there is not holding politicians accountable for their actions! No wonder the Tories keep winning, keep treating you and me like shit, but we move on and give them a free pass!

The tories keep winning because we don't have a strong stable labour candidate

A Tony Blair esq figure would probably beat Boris, but the Labour membership and its supporters or MPs would find a way to fuck it

 

[Evo1883]

"It's turned out to be an absolute disaster so let's move on from this monumental change to the fabric of our country that massively affects, so far very negatively, how we live, work and travel"

Stay in the bubble then mate , it's your life

 

[PVA]

Stay in the bubble then mate , it's your life

I voted to stay. That's the point

 

[Evo1883]

"It's turned out to be an absolute disaster so let's move on from this monumental change to the fabric of our country that massively affects, so far very negatively, how we live, work and travel"

To be clear though ...I haven't noticed a change in my life .. yet .
My work , my life haven't altered at all .

I will try and book a holiday next year , if I get met with impossible hurdles when I book up I'll be sure to let you know

 

[PVA]

To be clear though ...I haven't noticed a change in my life .. yet .
My work , my life haven't altered at all .

I will try and book a holiday next year , if I get met with impossible hurdles when I book up I'll be sure to let you know

It's cost our business hundreds of thousands of pounds since the vote. The parts and materials we order from abroad used to take days to arrive, now they take weeks or even months.

And I'd count us as one of the lucky ones. There's plenty out there much worse off.

 

[Evo1883]

It's cost our business hundreds of thousands of pounds since the vote. The parts and materials we order from abroad used to take days to arrive, now they take weeks or even months.

And I'd count us as one of the lucky ones. There's plenty out there much worse off.

No I'm just saying it hasn't effected me yet .. I haven't had any monumental negative change in my life .

 

[PVA]

No I'm just saying it hasn't effected me yet .. I haven't had any monumental negative change in my life .

And that's fine, good for you, but clearly the overwhelming outcome so far is negative. Many, many, more people have been affected negatively, some massively so, than positively.

And "I haven't had any monumental negative change in my life" is a bit different to the sunlit uplands we were promised.

 

[Evo1883]

And that's fine, good for you, but clearly the overwhelming outcome so far is negative. Many, many, more people have been affected negatively, some massively so, than positively.

And "I haven't had any monumental negative change in my life" is a bit different to the sunlit uplands we were promised.

It's effected certain people ofcourse .. for now.

 

[PVA]

It's effected certain people ofcourse .. for now.

"There will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside"

 

[wingy]

No I'm just saying it hasn't effected me yet .. I haven't had any monumental negative change in my life .

Might be able to get shellfish a tad cheaper
Might see a lot more scallop starter dishes around at Christmas .

 

[Terry_dactyl]

It's cost our business hundreds of thousands of pounds since the vote. The parts and materials we order from abroad used to take days to arrive, now they take weeks or even months.

And I'd count us as one of the lucky ones. There's plenty out there much worse off.

Chatting to my mate who owns a small mechanics in London - they do up vintage cars. Anyway, he reckons cost of parts has gone up by 20% and that there’s been complete shortages of certain items.