The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (51 Viewers)

[stupot07]

One for the what did you think you were voting for file

The Red Wall overwhelmingly opposes a no-deal Brexit | The Spectator

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[Sky Blue Pete]

6 weeks is plenty of time. Its not like there's anything else going on at the moment that other countries might be concentrating on.

We’re certainly not concentrating on it

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Brexit supporters will fall for the blame eu again though won’t they?

 

[skybluetony176]

Brexit supporters will fall for the blame eu again though won’t they?

For sure

 

[skybluetony176]

Another Brexit Tory who doesn’t seem to understand what he promoted in the referendum

 

[chiefdave]

This government is beyond parody. While Johnson is waving around a packet of Tim Tams they're releasing this video to highlight the rivalry between the UK and Australia. Slight problem being this is Northern Ireland v Ukraine from Euro 2016!



Here's the former Australian PM explaining where trade with the UK ranks for them.

 

[clint van damme]

we are a fucking laughing stock.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

we are a fucking laughing stock.

Maybe that’s the aim disaster capitalism

 

[clint van damme]

Maybe that’s the aim disaster capitalism

I can believe that for Brexit but I can't think their handling of the virus is anything but incompetence. Imagine if it was wilful? It doesn't bear thinking about.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

This has to be some kind of joke video

 

[PVA]

That is one of the most pathetic and embarrassing things I've ever seen.

He's the Prime Minister ffs. And that's what we get from him.

Also was it really worth trashing the economy just for some cheaper biscuits from the other side of the world?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That is one of the most pathetic and embarrassing things I've ever seen.

He's the Prime Minister ffs. And that's what we get from him.

Also was it really worth trashing the economy just for some cheaper biscuits from the other side of the world?

I thought the pork pies comments were bad but this ‘takes the biscuit’.

 

[chiefdave]

Also was it really worth trashing the economy just for some cheaper biscuits from the other side of the world?

Been a few years since I was in Australia last but aren’t Tim Tams basically Penguins?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Hahahahaha

 

[shmmeee]

FFS. Never mind Jeremy Corbyn, even Piers would be better than this joker.

 

[PVA]

But but the biscuits!

 

[chiefdave]

At least we get blue passports
UK's post-Brexit 'black' passport mocked online for being 'flimsy' | Daily Mail Online

 

[PVA]

At least we get blue passports
UK's post-Brexit 'black' passport mocked online for being 'flimsy' | Daily Mail Online

And the contract for making them has gone to a French company, likely to result in over 200 job losses here in the UK.

Taking back control.

We knew what we voted for.

 

[chiefdave]

$170 Billion and Counting: The Cost of Brexit for the U.K.

 

[stupot07]

$170 Billion and Counting: The Cost of Brexit for the U.K.
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But we've got our country back....

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[shmmeee]

$170 Billion and Counting: The Cost of Brexit for the U.K.
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Imagine if we’d spent that on schools. Four times the budget for Building Schools for the Future.

Or health. 400 new hospitals. Or ten times the promised amount extra for the NHS over the next parliament.

Or mental health. Almost 20 times the annual MH budget.

Or police. Could recruit, train and employ another 200,000 police for the next twenty years (might double check my maths on that seems mental).

What the fuck?

 

[wingy]

Wars are cheaper

 

[chiefdave]

The replacement for the EU's Galileo project.

The UK has begun the process of purchasing its own satellite navigation system for defence and critical national infrastructure purposes, according to reports.

The Times says Boris Johnson and the chancellor, Rishi Sunak, signed off on the purchase of a 20% stake in satellite operator OneWeb on Thursday night, after the UK was unable to access the EU’s Galileo satellite navigation system because of Brexit.

The prime minister agreed “to put up about £500m” of taxpayer money for the purchase, according to the Financial Times, which said the funds were part of a larger private sector consortium bid.

The FT also said Johnson’s chief adviser, Dominic Cummings, was “instrumental” in pushing for the UK’s involvement in the bid.

This will be the same OneWeb who filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection at the end of March.
OneWeb files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection

 

[PVA]

The replacement for the EU's Galileo project.

This will be the same OneWeb who filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection at the end of March.
OneWeb files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection

So much for there being no magic money tree.

Happy to spunk billions on stuff like this and the new plane paint job (which has the union jack the wrong way up by the way) but not willing to give nurses a payrise.

 

[shmmeee]

Not sure playing angel investor to tech companies is what I want my tax money spending on TBH. Just swallow your pride and team up with another system FFS why on earth do we need a low orbit satellite cluster of our own?

 

[PVA]

Presumably some palms need greasing.

 

[skybluetony176]

The replacement for the EU's Galileo project.

This will be the same OneWeb who filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection at the end of March.
OneWeb files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection

We’d already invested £1.2B in Galileo and wasn’t the argument for coming out of it as part of Brexit to do with not having control over Galileo. So how is spanking another £500M to be a minor investor in what sounds like a very unstable company going to cure that? I’m going to predict it ends up being a combination of useless, hitting the rocks, the taxpayer ends up getting nothing for the £500M and we end up going to the EU cap in hand asking for access to Galileo and god knows what cost.

 

[chiefdave]

We’d already invested £1.2B in Galileo and wasn’t the argument for coming out of it as part of Brexit to do with not having control over Galileo.

Yep, and we don't get that money back either. So we've paid the money and don't get the benefit with the added bonus that UK companies lose their contracts as the work moves to companies based in the EU.

Of course the whole reason for Galileo in the first place was so that we weren't reliant on a system owned by the US. So we're now investing in a system with a company that has a lot of its operation based in the US.

 

[skybluetony176]

The more I read about OneWeb the more I’m reminded that this is the government that gave a ferry company with no ferries millions of pounds of taxpayers money.
They only have 10% of the required hardware needed to make their system work in space.
They have very little production capacity now after filling for bankruptcy and laying of the majority of their workforce earlier this year.
The satellites they do have orbiting the Earth have only worked for a short period to meet with international law.
They apparently need a further $5B in funding yet we’re going to be investigating £500M for a 20% stake. Not sure how that maths adds up but I’m all ears.

 

[shmmeee]

The more I read about OneWeb the more I’m reminded that this is the government that gave a ferry company with no ferries millions of pounds of taxpayers money.
They only have 10% of the required hardware needed to make their system work in space.
They have very little production capacity now after filling for bankruptcy and laying of the majority of their workforce earlier this year.
The satellites they do have orbiting the Earth have only worked for a short period to meet with international law.
They apparently need a further $5B in funding yet we’re going to be investigating £500M for a 20% stake. Not sure how that maths adds up but I’m all ears.

Get Debrah Meaden on it

 

[skybluetony176]

Yep, and we don't get that money back either. So we've paid the money and don't get the benefit with the added bonus that UK companies lose their contracts as the work moves to companies based in the EU.

Of course the whole reason for Galileo in the first place was so that we weren't reliant on a system owned by the US. So we're now investing in a system with a company that has a lot of its operation based in the US.

I see Airbus is one of OneWebs biggest investors. This is Airbus who is making a lot of the hardware and software for Galileo and will be part of the operation of the system. Are we just going to end up with a more expensive less effective version of Galileo. Struggling to see where the common sense is here.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

So much for there being no magic money tree.

Happy to spunk billions on stuff like this and the new plane paint job (which has the union jack the wrong way up by the way) but not willing to give nurses a payrise.

You're happy to spunk on stuff like this ? :wideyed:

 

[PVA]

Oh dear.

This company don't even make the right type of satellites apparently.

'We've bought the wrong satellites': UK tech gamble baffles experts

 

[PVA]

You're happy to spunk on stuff like this ? :wideyed:

No, but Johnson is.

Though he thinks spending money investigating child abuse is 'spaffing' money up the wall. His words, not mine.

 

[skybluetony176]

Oh dear.

This company don't even make the right type of satellites apparently.

'We've bought the wrong satellites': UK tech gamble baffles experts

So basically the government is looking to invest in Betamax.