The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

Discussion in 'Off Topic Chat' started by jimmyhillsfanclub, Jun 8, 2016.

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
  1. Remain

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    37.1%
  2. Leave

    35 vote(s)
    56.5%
  3. Undecided

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    4.8%
  4. Not registered or not intention to vote

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  1. Brighton Sky Blue

    Brighton Sky Blue Well-Known Member

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    SkyblueBazza Well-Known Member

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    Then there is your answer. Why did you ask me the question if you already knew the answer? Other than it's "Tony being a twat" time again

    Edit - sorry Tony...it isn't you providing the link after-all. But there is your answer anyway.

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    From you.
     
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    Just so you know weather men/women aren’t climate change scientists.
     
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    God help the world!!!
     
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    Wow. Just wow.
     
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  7. Brighton Sky Blue

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    There isn't such a thing as an 'establishment scientist'. Just blithely ignoring everyone who has spent years studying their field because it doesn't fit your gut feeling that what, climate change isn't a thing?

    We burn fossil fuels

    It sends CO2 into the air

    The CO2 absorbs heat

    The Earth gets hotter

    Astute has better comprehension skills and that's saying something
     
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    Yes Tony

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  9. SkyblueBazza

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    Isn't there? So who do the Public Health bodies turn to? MHRA licence medications...who do they turn to?

    As far as global warming is concerned - I know I have said before on some thread or another that as soon as man discovered how to make fire the global temperature went up a miniscule amount. So although perhaps I don't fall hook, line & sinker for the all arguments around it I don't need you to tell me anything at all let alone climate change.

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    See? Twat time!

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  11. Brighton Sky Blue

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    Again all he sees are conspiracies and scientists cooking up plots in smoke filled labs...
     
  12. Brighton Sky Blue

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    Is that why you're here?
     
  13. Sick Boy

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    Oh dear.

    Thank you for the unforgettable experience.
     
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    Ha ha ha. Has anyone told you yet that the earth isn’t flat?
     
  15. Astute

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    Isn't me who doesn't understand. Or I suppose me saying a waste of money makes it a goid idea.

    And what about the reply to this link? You have spent enough time telling everyone your problems have arisen because of the generations before you. You love to blame everyone else for your problems

    House-buyer time machine
     
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    Says the person who constantly thinks that saying something is a waste of miney could be a giod idea......or at least tries to twist it that way.
     
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    So the establishment have their scientists? You concede that?

    I am wondering why you & Tony have an obsession with "conspiracy"?

    Let's face it - most publicly available knowlwdge of conspiracy is rife in the Labour party right on your doorstep atm. Maybe you should be down there lecturing & taking issue with their comments instead of on SBT? After all- they have some pipedream about being in charge of the country soon & can't seem to agree on very much of significance at all.

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  18. Brighton Sky Blue

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    Have you actually read it in full? It simply reinforces my argument-so thanks for posting. The key points being that house prices have risen much faster than wages, job security is lower and credit is harder to obtain. Quite interesting is that the couple could have bought a 3 bedroom house in central Brighton in 1968. When I rented around there the rent alone was over half my wages.

    I don’t have many problems now, truth be told. But the economic indicators don’t lie and it isn’t entitlement to point these out and conclude that it was easier as a young person in the past than it is now. You might point to technological perks, but previously each generation did get it better than the one before both economically and technologically.
     
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  20. Brighton Sky Blue

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    I asked you if the bridge was a good idea. A simple yes or no would be enough...
     
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    What happened to Mart?
     
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    Are you Tony's twin?

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  24. Brighton Sky Blue

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    I'd be amazed if HS2 actually makes it to completion to be honest
     
  25. Astute

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    Totally wrong as usual. But you do love putting your spin on anything. Just like when you tried to blame my generation for final salary pensions ending but then refused to consider that the Labour party was to blame.

    So in your own words what was the affordability through the years?
     
  26. Brighton Sky Blue

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    Do please show me where I said that. Though let's suppose Labour is to blame, which generation did Brown and Blair come from? Yours. Though Blair has a lot more to answer for on Iraq than his other shortcomings.

    Read the article you posted again. Look at what the couple concluded after being shown the state of play in each decade, and the accompanying analysis from the financial experts cited. They agreed that buying a house in your 20s now is harder than in the past. Is it or is it not correct that:

    a) House prices have risen at a much faster rate than wages in the last 50 years.
    b) Credit is harder to obtain following the 2008 recession.
    c) Employment for younger people has shifted from permanent full time work to temporary, part time or zero hours work.
    d) University is much harder to afford than it was in the past, but there is still a gulf between graduate and non-graduate earnings which encourages large numbers of applications.
    e) More young people are renting or living with parents than ever used to be the case.

    The reasons for these (and other indicators I could use) lie at the feet of both parties. I don't know why you think I'll ignore Labour mistakes just because I usually vote for them.
     
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    So it is my generations fault and not Brown and Tory Bliar?

    Everyone will remember your rants on the subject. You just ignored all evidence like now. As in yes house prices are up but interest rates are at record low rates and have been for many years. So houses are as affordable as they have been at most times you mention.

    The problem you have is people that come on here can read. So they have read the link. You blame my generation for everything.

    Just the same as the students up to your age blame us for global warming. The same people who have big cars or 4x4's for school runs just in case some leaves fall onto the road. They buy clothes they don't keep for long. They have new phones, tablets and laptops frequently when their old ones still work. They fly all over the place for holidays. Yet they demonstrate about what other people do. But like yourself they love to be blind to the truth.
     
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    Here was my reply to you Brighton on lots of your posts. Shall we dig out all your posts for you to dissapear for a few days in the hope it gets forgitten about?
     
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    I have a busy job and a life off the internet like most of us on here. The problem with you is you cross wires with so many other posters it isn’t just me.
     
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    I buy new clothes maybe once a year, a phone every 2 and I recycle the old one. I only get new laptops if the current one is busted beyond repair and never go further than Europe for a holiday-oh and I don’t drive. I also don’t know how many times I’ve criticised Labour policy or where I’ve refused to consider alternatives to Corbyn.

    You’ve posted an article that contradicts the point you were after.
     
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    I see private schools are now on the hit list of this non socialist opposition
     
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  33. Brighton Sky Blue

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    Is Finland socialist?
     
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    As you can see, no one knows and no one cares. Crying shame.
     
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    So you support the abolition proposal? How fascinating.

    I’m not sure Finland has ever made a decision to take control of private infrastructure and then awarded it to the state. I’m aware of Lenin enjoying doing it.

    It’s great. The suicide note gets better and better. Can the conference last another week?
     

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