Astute
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The bloke is an absolute bullshitter. He isn't alone. I don't trust any of them.
The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (61 Viewers)
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NorthernWisdom
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Sacked for making things up. Without the Eton education and posh accent, we'd have heard nothing more from him.
People are just calling them out for the grifting shit munchers they are. Laughable that you’re trying to play the free speech card.
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Grendel
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Tony says that he has to
skybluetony176
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The very first point (and it is a point not a fact) it makes is factually incorrect. It says and I quote “What is on offer entails the United Kingdom agreeing to pay the European Union another £39bn, in return for 21 months or more of additional talks to see if a new partnership can be arranged.“. The divorce bill is a settlement of monies due to the EU for historical commitments made as a member. I must confess I stopped reading it after that point. Point, not fact.
Grendel
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No it isn’t it includes an agreed contribution to the budget for the next 18 months
skybluetony176
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So what you actually mean is yes it is but it also includes an agreed contribution to the budget for the next 18 months. You’re just contradicting yourself there otherwise.
Grendel
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Again zero comprehension
skybluetony176
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Yes I may have got that wrong. See how that works. Key word though is may. All political commentators always add that it’s untested in law. Even Emily Thornberry said last night that her understanding is that an election is called and it happens in line with the withdrawal bill (which is what I was quoting when you insisted that only the opposition could call an election) but it’s untested and it’s Boris. Which also shows how disingenuous one of your earlier posts was when you were saying that he’s the worst PM ever, he’s selling snake oil etc why won’t the opposition trigger an election. You admit to knowing on one hand why they won’t while offering faux dismay on the other hand why they haven’t.
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Sick Boy
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It’s a interpretation of it by Redwood.
I take it you’re trying to say that the best option is to remain? And I agree that between May’s deal and remaining, remain would be by far the best option.
The alternative is no deal.
Grendel
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The opposition can trigger an election Tony
skybluetony176
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On your behalf yes. Otherwise you’d understand why your post was a contradiction in one sentence.
skybluetony176
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I never said they couldn’t.
Sick Boy
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It’s truly is laughable that he is in effect trying to shut down those who wish to challenge the bullshit by going on about freedom of speech
Astute
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I don't have a go at anyone for having an opinion as long as it is truth based.
Free speech card? Anyone should be able to say what they like as long as it is lawful and not designed to hurt anyone in any way. But they must expect comeback if not truthful.
Astute
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You talking about me or BJ?
Yes, hence the comeback to your comments that people want them silenced.
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Sick Boy
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You should have a go at yourself for claiming that May’s deal keeps Britain in the EU, as it’s Brexiteer bullshit and misinformation.
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skybluetony176
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It seems that the EU has all but confirmed that they would extend article 50 to allow for a general election.
Pass the Bill, extend article 50 call an election. No games, no tricks, just some clarity for a change.
Pass the Bill, extend article 50 call an election. No games, no tricks, just some clarity for a change.
Grendel
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For the whole of the uk including NI it’s accurate
Astute
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Try again. Out of the main points which of them are lies? You said I was giving false information. But as usual you won't say what false information it is.
And yes remain for me whatever. But I have had enough of grown adults acting like spoilt little brats trying to get their own way. It is pathetic
Grendel
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Odd as we are in the back seat they keep extending despite bluster aside. You are aware we can leave the day after the election if Johnson wins?
Sick Boy
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You’ve had enough of people exercising their right to freedom of speech?
You’ve previously tried to claim that it would keep the UK in the EU, which simply wouldn’t have been true.
It was reflective of the complete incompetence of the Brexiteers, their arrogance and lack of planning. And the contradictions about leaving and the promises made by leavers pre referendum.
Even now, where are these alternative solutions?
The UK’s choices led to May’s deal and was reflective of its weak negotiation position and lack of preparation. I’m sure none of them even considered the issue with the north of Ireland the impact it would have.
skybluetony176
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Why is it odd? How can he leave the next day? Why hasn’t Johnson done that already?
Grendel
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He can cancel the no deal act in his first day if he has a majority - Corbyn it seems wants no deal blocked and then have an election even in October when the act is law. Any party can campaign to say we will leave - he can’t his Tony as he’s not got a majority
skybluetony176
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Supposition then.
Grendel
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Jesus wept
Brighton Sky Blue
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Where did I ever say that? I have said though it's a joke that a party with just one policy and no manifesto can get 30% in the polls simply because it's fronted by the best charlatan in the business. It's so easy to garner popular support when you come up with vacuous slogans that anyone can support and provide no policies that might put people off.
Brighton Sky Blue
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They're waiting for us to make our minds up it isn't some conspiracy
Grendel
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Or of course Mr Corbyn isn’t as stupid as to believe that everyone is as gullible as you and will dribble in the corner believing his fantasy world and will in fact give Mr Johnson a majority - that’s why he’s hiding under the table isn’t it
skybluetony176
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I see there’s been another Tory rebel today.
skybluetony176
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Nicholas Soames was brilliant today in Parliament. Good to see he hasn’t lost his sense of humour.
Grendel
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Yet the opposition refuse an election against a minority government
skybluetony176
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Very sensible of them too.
Grendel
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And not very democratic but clearly very frightened
