skybluetony176
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OK, let’s pretend you’re right for a second. If that’s the case then why did ALL the brexit candidates step aside allowing her to become PM basically unchallenged?
Not to the Eu which was always her real government.
My wife spends a lot of time talking to relatives abroad. She says that there are often problems with Skype and prefers What'sApp or evem Facebook.And here tou go again making up a story as in what I am supposed to have said.
So where did I even mention the USA or Trump? But whilst on the subject the USA is our biggest export above any country in the EU. And I am still sure that a deal would be agreed with the EU before the first two years are up. Yes they hold all the cards because of the ineptitude of those previously involved. But we are too much of a big market to totally ignore. But a deal might not be done for ages after. Anyone who says they know what will happen is lying.
We will be using Skype. Waiting until we see if we leave at the end of October or not before deciding what to do with phones.
The astonishing revelation a leave without s deal option was never even mentioned let alone be the primary negotiating stance of the UK at the very beginning shows May was just a dribbling euriphile working with the Eu to create a leave but no leave option
OK, let’s pretend you’re right for a second. If that’s the case then why did ALL the brexit candidates step aside allowing her to become PM basically unchallenged?
David Davis was in charge of negotiations in the very beginning. Presumably another dribbling europhile?
Because they knew they’d not get through to the final 2 - Johnson has avoided the fate of many Tory candidates and avoided the inevitable stain of defeat and has played the game very well
Because they knew they’d not get through to the final 2 - Johnson has avoided the fate of many Tory candidates and avoided the inevitable stain of defeat and has played the game very well
But they had the “will of the people” on their side. Your reply makes no sense in either reality or in the context of your original comment.
What’s the fate of many Tory candidates? A dose of reality?
Davis wasn’t in charge of anything. Civil servants were in charge and towing the line
What so he waited for it to get so bad he could jump in as PM? People like you are his wet dream
So why did he accept the appointment? Raab too for that matter? Are you suggesting that May hoodwinked brexit backing MP’s, cabinet members and party members into not realising that she’s a “dribbling europhile”?
No it’s the fate of Willie Whitehall which Johnson observed well
Well on that basis why would the leader of the Lib undems vote with the Tory whip more than Michael Gove?
No it worked with a pro Eu government to fudge a Hotel California deal
People like you are Jeremy Corbyn wet dream and it’s why once again labour will spend many more years in a political wilderness and wonder why
I note you’re dodging the question. Any chance you’ll answer it?
Yeah there were no Brexiteers leading negotiations. May’s hard nosed anti EU rhetoric was then rejected by the electorate with her snap election (the one where Labour were going to get crushed for a generation).
You seemed to have failed to observe that in the last Tory leadership contest it’s Tory party members who elect their leader not “Willie Whitehall” and the victor by some margin was the face of the brexit campaign. If they’d have stayed the course there’s no way based on actual events not supposition that May would have won. So the original question is still unanswered. Why did they all step aside and let a “dribbling europhile” take control of their victory?
So have you suddenly forgotten that Barnier said hardly anything will change for two years if we left without a deal to protect those who trade with us in the EU? Or is it just best to forget?Before the first 2 years of what are up?
So Barnier is a liar?That’s assuming there’s a transition period and we don’t follow either of the plans from leavers to go straight onto WTO tariffs or blanket zero tariffs.
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Try reading again and not defending someone as bad as yourself at trying to make everything sound as bad as you can.He’s not saying you did he’s using it as an example of a country looking for a trade deal and how that might play out.
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Sorry meant WhatsApp. Busy at work.My wife spends a lot of time talking to relatives abroad. She says that there are often problems with Skype and prefers What'sApp or evem Facebook.
Oh the answer is very obvious and it’s staring you in the face
May agreed a way out of the EU that kept us in the EU. I didn't want it. You didn't want it. Hardly anyone wanted it. She couldn't push it through parliament. No side wanted it.Yeah there were no Brexiteers leading negotiations. May’s hard nosed anti EU rhetoric was then rejected by the electorate with her snap election (the one where Labour were going to get crushed for a generation).
Because they couldn't get enough votes. But you know this.You seemed to have failed to observe that in the last Tory leadership contest it’s Tory party members who elect their leader not “Willie Whitehall” and the victor by some margin was the face of the brexit campaign. If they’d have stayed the course there’s no way based on actual events not supposition that May would have won. So the original question is still unanswered. Why did they all step aside and let a “dribbling europhile” take control of their victory?
Because they couldn't get enough votes. But you know this.
So have you suddenly forgotten that Barnier said hardly anything will change for two years if we left without a deal to protect those who trade with us in the EU? Or is it just best to forget?
May agreed a way out of the EU that kept us in the EU. I didn't want it. You didn't want it. Hardly anyone wanted it. She couldn't push it through parliament. No side wanted it.
So what was good about what May and the EU came up with?
Try reading again and not defending someone as bad as yourself at trying to make everything sound as bad as you can.
Try reading again and not defending someone as bad as yourself at trying to make everything sound as bad as you can.
So Barnier is a liar?
May agreed a way out of the EU that kept us in the EU. I didn't want it. You didn't want it. Hardly anyone wanted it. She couldn't push it through parliament. No side wanted it.
So what was good about what May and the EU came up with?
The withdrawal agreement was why nothing would change. Jesus weptWould you like to explain why those countries allowed to make trade deals with us won't want to?
It is just like those so called cliff edge doomsday sayers. The EU said nothing would change for at least 2 years after us leaving. They say it is to protect their remaining members. Are you going to tell me that there is no chance of sorting out a trade deal in this time?
Or would you like to explain how they don't want everything to change the day we leave to protect their remaining members but they will want it ti change afterwards?
These questions are always ignored by certain people on here. It doesn't go with what they preach. It is like when you said to me that whole regions around the EU won't be badly affected. They would be if your predictions are correct. But you only push one side across constantly.
The whole debacle is shit. It has split my family up from myself. Now all phone companies have changed their terms and conditions on their 'fair usage policies'. I have been waiting for someone to blame it on Brexit. But it is greed. After Brexit it will get worse. Ex pats have used 02 for years. Now they are left with worthless contracts. I am with EE and have been for over 20 years. In another 2 weeks they will charge 70p a minute to accept a call and £2.70 a minute to make a call if you spend 2 months out of 4 out of the country. You get it back if you spend 2 months back in the UK. And this is before Brexit. But I guarantee you that it will be blamed on Brexit.
Not being able to leave the EU until the EU says we can leave is leaving the EU?It wasn’t staying in the EU, the Customs Union is not the EU.
Oh the answer is very obvious and it’s staring you in the face
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