The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

Discussion in 'Off Topic Chat' started by jimmyhillsfanclub, Jun 8, 2016.

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
  1. Remain

    23 vote(s)
    37.1%
  2. Leave

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    56.5%
  3. Undecided

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    4.8%
  4. Not registered or not intention to vote

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  1. NorthernWisdom

    NorthernWisdom Well-Known Member

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    tbf, we're all losers in this.
     
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    Are we?
     
  3. skybluetony176

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    As far as the leadership of the Labour Party goes you’re proving his point. Unless you’re going to tell us that Corbyn is a dribbling europhile.
     
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    Now we have the BP criticising Johnson and claiming they are the only party who would deliver a ‘proper Brexit’, which now appears to be No Deal.

    This is despite its leader being happy with the Norway approach pre-referendum.
     
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    It’s all propaganda. Claim only No Deal is true Brexit, knowing it can’t be delivered. Then whatever happens next isn’t because Brexit was a fucking stupid idea, but because it wasn’t done right.

    And of course the Farage ball polishers are eating it up and doing their job like good little proles.
     
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    It should be becoming obvious to everyone that Farage is in this for the long haul and his only aim is to make money. I wondered for a while if he had any convictions whatsoever and what life experience they might be derived from but he is a hypocrite without morales who will say and do anything to get paid. A professional protest politician.


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    Are we talking Nigel or Jezza here?
     
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    The whole grift relies on an unwinnable cause. I bet he was gutted when Leave won.
     
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    Yeah because Jezza is famous for his money making schemes in parliament. Especially on those expenses....
     
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    A few of his mates wasn’t. Some did very well when the pound crashed. IIRC there was a dispatches special regarding it and one of them was caught on tape laughing and joking at the prospect of a hard brexit salivating for another windfall on the misery.
     
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    Yeah he sounded gutted the morning of the result didn't he?
     
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    Well no he prefers to get paid on the side by the Iranian TV network
     
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    Not much better but for Jez it does seem to be ideological. I thought Farage might be too but now I think it’s pure grift


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    Yet again deflecting away from the actual point that was being made and away from those responsible.
     
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    Corbyns motivations are easy: he lucked the hard left into leadership and like every political leader ever he ain’t letting go easily.
     
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    Ironic given every time Corbyn and the IRA is mentioned you swivel to an obscure Brexit MEP
     
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    Hahaha just exposing your hypocrisy.
     
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    If he and his policies are hard left it just shows how far right we’ve been dragged.
     
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    And collaboraters. And remainers.
     
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    Probably not as much as your new best mate got paid to write racist crap in the Telegraph
     
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    Only if you go by air or sea.
     
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    I have reflected. It seems to me most people didn’t know much at all about the EU. Some get the courts muddled up and the ECHR is the EU. Others think th EU caused the austerity program of the UK government. Others think there will be a EU army and that we will be forced to have the Euro very shortly. Others are scared of a flood of immigrants because the Mail and EXpress suggested that there would be

    No one thought about NI.

    First thing to be done: educate people, starting in the school. Second: team people motivated to vote. Then try and get better candidates. Not just gravy trainers like Farage.

    To get the EU reformed you need public support and capable politicians.
     
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    You do know there was a football match on tonight?

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    The Eu said that things would continue so as to avoid disruption, but that it would not be comparable to the transition period of 2 years if we had acdeal. Priti Patel says FOM will end on 01. November. Expect some form of tit for tat.
     
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    It’s over. I was on the match thread for the 2. half.
     
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    So there is no public support on reform in the EU? Added to public support is every leader of every country in the EU wants reform. So why can't it happen?

    Because those who hold all the power are the ones who would have to give up their power. But they prefer to promote others who will carry on as usual. And they are even prepared to break their own laws, rules and regulations to keep it this way. And when caught out doing so they ignore all calls for justice.
     
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    Shock horror, people with power taking care of their own interests. It goes on it everywhere across the world, it’s not like the UK is perfect either and there’s abuse of power as well.
     
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    Had to laugh when de Pfeffel Johnson said that our European friends were being a little negative...obviously they haven’t discovered this magical power of positive thinking.
     
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    So why will things crash and burn November 1st? Why will all the worse case scenarios happen straight away?

    They won't. And I will say yet again. I expect a deal to be made in this 2 year period.
     
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    Well with the likes of Patel in charge and her plans to end FoM immediately, it’s not exactly going to help, is it? Her plans would make it impossible for things to not change and it would be completely impossible to have anything like the transitional period in place with what she wants to happen.

    If i were you I’d be raging at her plans as the EU would inevitably replicate what the Uk does in retaliation, which will directly impact you.
     
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    They will have to send you the ingredients when they find them.

    I wish I could look at this whole thing as an innocent bystander. It would then be interesting as it unfolds. But I have to consider my family in France. Looks like a good move so far. Kids now have schools to go to. But we had to make a decision. My little girl is 10 and 11 in September. She is a year ahead in France so would have to go to high school. 1,400 kids. Would scare the shite out of her. So she is going private like about half the schools in France. Only 120 kids. My little boy will also be going private or would have to travel miles. That was sorted yesterday. The wife is already on with sorting out her right to stay. And her french is now great to where it was. They will all be totally fluent within 6 months.
     
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    I'd be pretty sure he'd give way to a more media friendly left leaning alternative if one came along.
     
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    Why would it directly impact me? We have said everyone already here can stay. So I need the EU to rule the same.

    It is a waste of time raging over everything. There is nothing either of us can do to maje a difference. If there was I would be the same as you and only putting across one side. But as it is supposed to be a debate I try to look at both sides and point out the inaccuracies.

    Yes it is shit. The problem we have is those who don't 'know' what is best. Without them we would have a majority.
     
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    Glad it’s going well for them, I imagine they’re enjoying the summer. I was back in England over the weekend the weather was a bit of a shock.

    As for the magical positive thinking, I prefer to take responsibility for myself and live in the real world, thanks ;)
     

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