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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (4 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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martcov

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  • Jun 1, 2019
  • #36,961
Grendel said:
As I’ve said he’d have supported the nazis if the wanted the Eu

I feel a bit sorry for him as he clearly has issues and needs therapy

He should be banned from herd so he can try and get his life back together
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The most right wing racist nationalists are on the leave side. The EU has rules to prevent fascism and preserve democracy. They hate the EU for that.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2019
  • #36,962
Ian1779 said:
The irony is that the Liberals are the main reason we are here in the first place. Climbing into bed with the Tories, facilitating austerity so they could have their moment of power. They helped Cameron create this mess.

For such an ‘unequivocal’ message why would climb back into power with the Tories in a heartbeat? Their prospective new leaders have both said so. They have nothing to offer this country apart from more of the same.

My statement stands up pretty well.
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That's not completely true. The Tories are the main reason we're here - they were the ones that wanted the cuts and austerity in the first place. Had it just been Lib Dems do you think they'd have pushed through those cuts?

And those cuts may well have been watered down from what the tories actually wanted to get through - cuts got more drastic when they won a majority.
 
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dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2019
  • #36,963
Brexit party tops Westminster election poll for first time



Nigel Farage’s Brexit party has surged into first place as voters’ favourites, according to a new poll. It is the first time the party has achieved top position in a national poll. The results suggest hundreds of Conservative seats are at risk.

The Brexit party’s support increased by two points to 26% of the vote in the latest Opinium poll – for the Observer – which asked people how they would vote in the next Westminster election.

Labour is in second place on 22%, but its support has fallen by seven points over the past two weeks. The Tories are third on 17%, with their support down five points, and the Lib Dems are up five points, on 16% of the vote.

These results come after a poll last week put the Lib Dems in first place, in another sign that parties with a clear position on Brexit are gaining support while the Conservatives and Labour continue to grapple with their stances on leaving the EU. Both parties are under pressure to set out their pro-Brexit or pro-Remain positions more unequivocally.

 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2019
  • #36,964
dutchman said:
Brexit party tops Westminster election poll for first time



Nigel Farage’s Brexit party has surged into first place as voters’ favourites, according to a new poll. It is the first time the party has achieved top position in a national poll. The results suggest hundreds of Conservative seats are at risk.

The Brexit party’s support increased by two points to 26% of the vote in the latest Opinium poll – for the Observer – which asked people how they would vote in the next Westminster election.

Labour is in second place on 22%, but its support has fallen by seven points over the past two weeks. The Tories are third on 17%, with their support down five points, and the Lib Dems are up five points, on 16% of the vote.

These results come after a poll last week put the Lib Dems in first place, in another sign that parties with a clear position on Brexit are gaining support while the Conservatives and Labour continue to grapple with their stances on leaving the EU. Both parties are under pressure to set out their pro-Brexit or pro-Remain positions more unequivocally.

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Level with Greens and Liberals then.
 
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Grappa

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2019
  • #36,965
 
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Grappa

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2019
  • #36,966
Simple people demand simple solutions to complex problems.
 
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Grappa

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2019
  • #36,967
Marine Le Pen & Matteo Salvini reject Nigel Farage's Leadership in Euro Supergroup - EU Today
lol
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,968
martcov said:
I am not defending them. They didn’t make the laws. He is an employee and has labour law protections.
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You are not defending them?

I didn't even mention the name Selmayr yet you jumped in to defend him and those who put him in a job for life he shouldn't have got by EU law.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,969
martcov said:
The most right wing racist nationalists are on the leave side. The EU has rules to prevent fascism and preserve democracy. They hate the EU for that.
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Is that like the rules, regulations and laws to protect the environment that they made but ignore them when German car makers seriously flout them?
 

Astute

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  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,970
Grappa said:
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So we should ignore Farage and the points he makes but listen to someone who was a main part in the murder of many because he makes what is said to be good points?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,971
dutchman said:
Brexit party tops Westminster election poll for first time



Nigel Farage’s Brexit party has surged into first place as voters’ favourites, according to a new poll. It is the first time the party has achieved top position in a national poll. The results suggest hundreds of Conservative seats are at risk.

The Brexit party’s support increased by two points to 26% of the vote in the latest Opinium poll – for the Observer – which asked people how they would vote in the next Westminster election.

Labour is in second place on 22%, but its support has fallen by seven points over the past two weeks. The Tories are third on 17%, with their support down five points, and the Lib Dems are up five points, on 16% of the vote.

These results come after a poll last week put the Lib Dems in first place, in another sign that parties with a clear position on Brexit are gaining support while the Conservatives and Labour continue to grapple with their stances on leaving the EU. Both parties are under pressure to set out their pro-Brexit or pro-Remain positions more unequivocally.

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Meanwhile:

„The European Banking Authority shut its doors in London today.

Reopening at new address in Paris on monday..

Quietly done...“

All irrelevant and nothing to do with Brexit of course.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,972
Astute said:
So we should ignore Farage and the points he makes but listen to someone who was a main part in the murder of many because he makes what is said to be good points?
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No one said that. But you would be stupid to ignore good points just because you don’t like the person making them.

E.g. I have constantly said that Farage was right about the UK FPTP no longer working.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,973
Astute said:
Is that like the rules, regulations and laws to protect the environment that they made but ignore them when German car makers seriously flout them?
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They aren’t being ignored.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,974
Grappa said:
Marine Le Pen & Matteo Salvini reject Nigel Farage's Leadership in Euro Supergroup - EU Today
lol
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Yeah, you’d have to be pretty thick to have Farage as your leader.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,975
Astute said:
You are not defending them?

I didn't even mention the name Selmayr yet you jumped in to defend him and those who put him in a job for life he shouldn't have got by EU law.
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No, I didn’t. I jumped in to criticise your view that people are turning against the EU because of the people running it. Your favourite example happens to be Selmayr. You refuse to acknowledge that by your own standards, May being allowed to appoint the head of the UK civil service without any transparent process is worse. The EU is not falling apart and I have not heard people going on about such things ( e.g. Selmayr) - outside of the UK right wing MSM. The discussion has been about a Europe of fatherlands, or of basic social standards, or the benefits of the EU, or the advantage / disadvantages of the EURO, the environment etc..

You tend to make sweeping statements full of Faragist cliches.
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,976
Grappa said:
Marine Le Pen & Matteo Salvini reject Nigel Farage's Leadership in Euro Supergroup - EU Today
lol
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He is the only one leading a party with the aim of leaving the EU, so he would be out of place anyway. The others would be happy with a more racist EU.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,977
martcov said:
He is the only one leading a party with the aim of leaving the EU, so he would be out of place anyway. The others would be happy with a more racist EU.
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Neither Le Pen or Salvini want to leave the EU, it seems that Brexit hasnt been as appealing to others as some expected.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,978
Sick Boy said:
Neither Le Pen or Salvini want to leave the EU, it seems that Brexit has been as appealing to others as some expected.
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We haven't left yet - maybe that is why atm. All others are seeing is the difficulty getting there.

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Grendel

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  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,979
Sick Boy said:
Neither Le Pen or Salvini want to leave the EU, it seems that Brexit has been as appealing to others as some expected.
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Depends how this goes

Salvini vows not to yield to Brussels in Italy budget dispute
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,980
Corbyn accuses Trump of interfering in UK politics with Johnson comments - Reuters
Of course...he is right...Trump should keep his gob shut. Although, some may accuse Corbyn of meddling in British politics as well!

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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,981
SkyblueBazza said:
We haven't left yet - maybe that is why atm. All others are seeing is the difficulty getting there.

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Clutching at straws cones to mind
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,982
Sick Boy said:
Clutching at straws cones to mind
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Both have said that they expect to receive certain concessions from the Eu - I’ve heard that somewhere before
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,983
Grendel said:
Depends how this goes

Salvini vows not to yield to Brussels in Italy budget dispute
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Nowhere does it mention leaving the EU and he spouts what people want to hear without any actual substance. Who wouldn’t want lower taxes and more jobs? In the long term he is going to leave Italy in an even worse situation.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,984
Grendel said:
Both have said that they expect to receive certain concessions from the Eu - I’ve heard that somewhere before
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Yet even Le Pen doesn’t actually want to leave the Euro or Eu.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,985
Sick Boy said:
Yet even Le Pen doesn’t actually want to leave the Euro or Eu.
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Lol of course she doesn’t
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,986
Grendel said:
Lol of course she doesn’t
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Both were shelved in her latest manifesto and the German eurosceptics also watered down theirs. You’d think with the success of Brexit that they’d have included them for sure.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,987
Sick Boy said:
Neither Le Pen or Salvini want to leave the EU, it seems that Brexit has been as appealing to others as some expected.
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Le Pen doesn’t even want to leave the Euro.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,988
SkyblueBazza said:
Corbyn accuses Trump of interfering in UK politics with Johnson comments - Reuters
Of course...he is right...Trump should keep his gob shut. Although, some may accuse Corbyn of meddling in British politics as well!

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Corbyn has been elected to opposition. If he’s not meddling in British politics he isn’t doing his job. That’s the difference.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,989
Sick Boy said:
Both were shelved in her latest manifesto and the German eurosceptics also watered down theirs. You’d think with the success of Brexit that they’d have included them for sure.
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They still want out - I don’t believe you are that naive
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,990
Grendel said:
They still want out - I don’t believe you are that naive
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You voted for the Brexit party as a protest vote, I’m not sure you should be calling others naive, especially as I believe you’d find a lot of his other policies abhorrent.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,991
Sick Boy said:
Clutching at straws cones to mind
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No clutching on my part. If they have a vote & decide to stay or leave it is entierly up to them to do it.

We did so, some are clutching at straws to overturn the result.

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Grendel

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  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,992
Sick Boy said:
You voted for the Brexit party as a protest vote, I’m not sure you should be calling others naive, especially as I believe you’d find a lot of his other policies abhorrent.
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People with these opinions don’t change them

Interview with Marine Le Pen: ‘I Don’t Want this European Soviet Union’
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,993
SkyblueBazza said:
Corbyn accuses Trump of interfering in UK politics with Johnson comments - Reuters
Of course...he is right...Trump should keep his gob shut. Although, some may accuse Corbyn of meddling in British politics as well!

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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Corbyn is the leader of the opposition in the UK, how can he be seen as interfering? Trump’s approach to the UK is predatory, if he had his way the UK will soon be falling into line with USA standards as he takes advantage of the country’s vulnerability.

As usual it’ll be the poor suffering with no choice but to buy shitty US imports.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,994
Sick Boy said:
Corbyn is the leader of the opposition in the UK, how can he be seen as interfering? Trump’s approach to the UK is predatory, if he had his way the UK will soon be falling into line with USA standards as he takes advantage of the country’s vulnerability.

As usual it’ll be the poor suffering with no choice but to buy shitty US imports.
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See how things change? I say meddling - you say interfereing.

Corbyn's approach is also predatory. He is arrogantly pursuing a General Election with sca t regard for the fact that come 31st October the EU could tell us to piss off without an agreement.

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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2019
  • #36,995
Grendel said:
People with these opinions don’t change them

Interview with Marine Le Pen: ‘I Don’t Want this European Soviet Union’
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Yet she never went as far as saying that she would take France out of the EU. Interesting she acknowledges her rise is as a result of austerity though.
 
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