The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (11 Viewers)

As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .

martcov

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As I’ve said he’d have supported the nazis if the wanted the Eu

I feel a bit sorry for him as he clearly has issues and needs therapy

He should be banned from herd so he can try and get his life back together

The most right wing racist nationalists are on the leave side. The EU has rules to prevent fascism and preserve democracy. They hate the EU for that.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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The irony is that the Liberals are the main reason we are here in the first place. Climbing into bed with the Tories, facilitating austerity so they could have their moment of power. They helped Cameron create this mess.

For such an ‘unequivocal’ message why would climb back into power with the Tories in a heartbeat? Their prospective new leaders have both said so. They have nothing to offer this country apart from more of the same.

My statement stands up pretty well.

That's not completely true. The Tories are the main reason we're here - they were the ones that wanted the cuts and austerity in the first place. Had it just been Lib Dems do you think they'd have pushed through those cuts?

And those cuts may well have been watered down from what the tories actually wanted to get through - cuts got more drastic when they won a majority.
 

dutchman

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Brexit party tops Westminster election poll for first time

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Nigel Farage’s Brexit party has surged into first place as voters’ favourites, according to a new poll. It is the first time the party has achieved top position in a national poll. The results suggest hundreds of Conservative seats are at risk.

The Brexit party’s support increased by two points to 26% of the vote in the latest Opinium poll – for the Observer – which asked people how they would vote in the next Westminster election.

Labour is in second place on 22%, but its support has fallen by seven points over the past two weeks. The Tories are third on 17%, with their support down five points, and the Lib Dems are up five points, on 16% of the vote.

These results come after a poll last week put the Lib Dems in first place, in another sign that parties with a clear position on Brexit are gaining support while the Conservatives and Labour continue to grapple with their stances on leaving the EU. Both parties are under pressure to set out their pro-Brexit or pro-Remain positions more unequivocally.

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martcov

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Brexit party tops Westminster election poll for first time

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Nigel Farage’s Brexit party has surged into first place as voters’ favourites, according to a new poll. It is the first time the party has achieved top position in a national poll. The results suggest hundreds of Conservative seats are at risk.

The Brexit party’s support increased by two points to 26% of the vote in the latest Opinium poll – for the Observer – which asked people how they would vote in the next Westminster election.

Labour is in second place on 22%, but its support has fallen by seven points over the past two weeks. The Tories are third on 17%, with their support down five points, and the Lib Dems are up five points, on 16% of the vote.

These results come after a poll last week put the Lib Dems in first place, in another sign that parties with a clear position on Brexit are gaining support while the Conservatives and Labour continue to grapple with their stances on leaving the EU. Both parties are under pressure to set out their pro-Brexit or pro-Remain positions more unequivocally.

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Level with Greens and Liberals then.
 

Astute

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I am not defending them. They didn’t make the laws. He is an employee and has labour law protections.
You are not defending them?

I didn't even mention the name Selmayr yet you jumped in to defend him and those who put him in a job for life he shouldn't have got by EU law.
 

Astute

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The most right wing racist nationalists are on the leave side. The EU has rules to prevent fascism and preserve democracy. They hate the EU for that.
Is that like the rules, regulations and laws to protect the environment that they made but ignore them when German car makers seriously flout them?
 

martcov

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Brexit party tops Westminster election poll for first time

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Nigel Farage’s Brexit party has surged into first place as voters’ favourites, according to a new poll. It is the first time the party has achieved top position in a national poll. The results suggest hundreds of Conservative seats are at risk.

The Brexit party’s support increased by two points to 26% of the vote in the latest Opinium poll – for the Observer – which asked people how they would vote in the next Westminster election.

Labour is in second place on 22%, but its support has fallen by seven points over the past two weeks. The Tories are third on 17%, with their support down five points, and the Lib Dems are up five points, on 16% of the vote.

These results come after a poll last week put the Lib Dems in first place, in another sign that parties with a clear position on Brexit are gaining support while the Conservatives and Labour continue to grapple with their stances on leaving the EU. Both parties are under pressure to set out their pro-Brexit or pro-Remain positions more unequivocally.

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Meanwhile:

„The European Banking Authority shut its doors in London today.

Reopening at new address in Paris on monday..

Quietly done...“

All irrelevant and nothing to do with Brexit of course.
 

martcov

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So we should ignore Farage and the points he makes but listen to someone who was a main part in the murder of many because he makes what is said to be good points?

No one said that. But you would be stupid to ignore good points just because you don’t like the person making them.

E.g. I have constantly said that Farage was right about the UK FPTP no longer working.
 

martcov

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You are not defending them?

I didn't even mention the name Selmayr yet you jumped in to defend him and those who put him in a job for life he shouldn't have got by EU law.

No, I didn’t. I jumped in to criticise your view that people are turning against the EU because of the people running it. Your favourite example happens to be Selmayr. You refuse to acknowledge that by your own standards, May being allowed to appoint the head of the UK civil service without any transparent process is worse. The EU is not falling apart and I have not heard people going on about such things ( e.g. Selmayr) - outside of the UK right wing MSM. The discussion has been about a Europe of fatherlands, or of basic social standards, or the benefits of the EU, or the advantage / disadvantages of the EURO, the environment etc..

You tend to make sweeping statements full of Faragist cliches.
 

Grendel

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Clutching at straws cones to mind

Both have said that they expect to receive certain concessions from the Eu - I’ve heard that somewhere before
 

Grendel

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Both were shelved in her latest manifesto and the German eurosceptics also watered down theirs. You’d think with the success of Brexit that they’d have included them for sure.

They still want out - I don’t believe you are that naive
 

Grendel

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Sick Boy

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Corbyn accuses Trump of interfering in UK politics with Johnson comments - Reuters
Of course...he is right...Trump should keep his gob shut. Although, some may accuse Corbyn of meddling in British politics as well!

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Corbyn is the leader of the opposition in the UK, how can he be seen as interfering? Trump’s approach to the UK is predatory, if he had his way the UK will soon be falling into line with USA standards as he takes advantage of the country’s vulnerability.

As usual it’ll be the poor suffering with no choice but to buy shitty US imports.
 

SkyblueBazza

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Corbyn is the leader of the opposition in the UK, how can he be seen as interfering? Trump’s approach to the UK is predatory, if he had his way the UK will soon be falling into line with USA standards as he takes advantage of the country’s vulnerability.

As usual it’ll be the poor suffering with no choice but to buy shitty US imports.
See how things change? I say meddling - you say interfereing.

Corbyn's approach is also predatory. He is arrogantly pursuing a General Election with sca t regard for the fact that come 31st October the EU could tell us to piss off without an agreement.

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