Statement signings if we go up? (20 Viewers)

Sky Blue Goblin

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Taken with a pinch of salt, but....

Would be good player to have in the squad. I’d imagine Rudoni would be the starting ten. But the experience he has would be a good boost imo.
 

TomRad85

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Unpopular opinion of the day…..

Barry Bannan would of been a better signing than onyeka. He’s overrated. .

Looking France GIF by Paris Saint-Germain
 

Ipad Boro

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Big chances missed:
1. Southampton (70)
2. Ipswich (66)
3. Coventry (60)
...
13. Boro (45)

xG difference:
1. Coventry (30.9)
2. Ipswich (27.4)
3. Boro (19.3)

From a creativity standpoint you're clearly quite far behind us & Ipswich. I think you'd be in a similar position if you had Vipotnik
You say that, but a great deal of those stats were built up when Edwards (and Adi) were in charge, prior to Hellberg's arrival, when we were much more defensively minded. The midfield were given less licence to attack so often, one or often both of the CM's acting primarily as a shield for the defence.

Sides didn't play low blocks against us as much for this reason, so when we did advance more sparingly we generally found more time in which to operate and finish effectively. With less time as we've had for some time now, a striker of better calibre is needed?

Here's the results of xG from the last 5 games for example. You won't be surprised to learn that Millwall are at the bottom of these xG stats, Ipswich above them and yourselves better than them both. Our own stats are eye-opening though, especially despite us getting the lowest points of the 4 sides at the top (8);
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It all points to (with Hellberg's Boro) a ruthless, quick and accurate marksman making more difference to our results than practically any other side in the league;
 

Ccfcisparks

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You say that, but a great deal of those stats were built up when Edwards (and Adi) were in charge, prior to Hellberg's arrival, when we were much more defensively minded. The midfield were given less licence to attack so often, one or often both of the CM's acting primarily as a shield for the defence.

Sides didn't play low blocks against us as much for this reason, so when we did advance more sparingly we generally found more time in which to operate and finish effectively. With less time as we've had for some time now, a striker of better calibre is needed?

Here's the results of xG from the last 5 games for example. You won't be surprised to learn that Millwall are at the bottom of these xG stats, Ipswich above them and yourselves better than them both. Our own stats are eye-opening though, especially despite us getting the lowest points of the 4 sides at the top (8);
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It all points to (with Hellberg's Boro) a ruthless, quick and accurate marksman making more difference to our results than practically any other side in the league;
I think you win every game with Vipotnik
 

Jamesimus

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You say that, but a great deal of those stats were built up when Edwards (and Adi) were in charge, prior to Hellberg's arrival, when we were much more defensively minded. The midfield were given less licence to attack so often, one or often both of the CM's acting primarily as a shield for the defence.

Sides didn't play low blocks against us as much for this reason, so when we did advance more sparingly we generally found more time in which to operate and finish effectively. With less time as we've had for some time now, a striker of better calibre is needed?

Here's the results of xG from the last 5 games for example. You won't be surprised to learn that Millwall are at the bottom of these xG stats, Ipswich above them and yourselves better than them both. Our own stats are eye-opening though, especially despite us getting the lowest points of the 4 sides at the top (8);
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It all points to (with Hellberg's Boro) a ruthless, quick and accurate marksman making more difference to our results than practically any other side in the league;

On the eye test as I’ve watched a few Boro games this season (I’m not sure if stats back this up?) but you seem to create less “clear cut” chances and lots of less clear chances; shots outside of the area etc.

I’m not entirely sure, but could this bump up your xG?

You would clearly be better off with a proper number 9 thought, that’s not in doubt.
 

Ipad Boro

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On the eye test as I’ve watched a few Boro games this season (I’m not sure if stats back this up?) but you seem to create less “clear cut” chances and lots of less clear chances; shots outside of the area etc.

I’m not entirely sure, but could this bump up your xG?

You would clearly be better off with a proper number 9 thought, that’s not in doubt.
There is a little truth in this, with some of our shots.

This is in the main caused by our inferior strikers, tending to second guess themselves and take too many touches instead of finishing instinctively, which a striker out of form is prone to.

The likes of Vipotnik as an example would do this far less.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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First post in about 12 years by the way...

Lets be honest, we need either up and coming hidden gems and some older experienced heads.

But we need an experienced defender. Lewis Dunk perhaps. Reaching end of his career, could come in and stabilise the defence. Then we need an experienced left back. Chilwell could well be that.

Here's an ouside shout for the middle.. Jobe Bellingham. Gone to Germany, its not quite working. Might want to come back over.

The Ox from Celtic.

Then a striker too i think, I think Simms might struggle in the Prem and be a good signing for a Champ side. So then we need someone else.. Another old head comes to mind, Danny Welbeck.

Don't post for another 12 years please ;)
 

Ipad Boro

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Didn't we sign Rudoni from a side relegated to League One? I hardly think you can blame Barkley for that Luton side failing to stay up, he was one of their standouts that season.
Correct.
Ross Barkley was widely hailed as a masterstroke of a signing for Luton, was arguably their star player and it-reignited his career, which had stalled comparatively.
 

coop

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Would love Vipotnik to somehow get injured in training this week big threat to us.Looks a real handful and don't fancy our CB to handle him very well Southamptons goals were very soft Saturday.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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Barkley would be a good signing for us. Cant really see why we’d turn our nose up. Good player, has a lot of experience at the level and worked with Lampard previously.

Not to mention wouldn’t cost a fortune (at least in fees).
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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Barkley would be a good signing for us. Cant really see why we’d turn our nose up. Good player, has a lot of experience at the level and worked with Lampard previously.

Not to mention wouldn’t cost a fortune (at least in fees).
No resale value, so unless there was a minimal transfer fee, it'd be a no from me. Sooner pay less wages on a younger player with 'potential' (like George Boateng was) that may or not pay off.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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Not every player we bring in has to have resale value, we need some Prem experience in the team.
I know; but coming from a background of balancing budgets, I'd be wary of using much of it on players like this, as the consequences down the line financially would likely hamstring us. It feels like winning the lottery and forking out loads on a car that has huge depreciation value. Not necessarily a problem if it is perhaps one or two, but it's that category of player I'd steer furthest clear of.
 

shmmeee

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Think he’d be the perfect Grimes upgrade TBH. We definitely need an old head either there or at CB, or both IMO
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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Id be wary of looking at the squad for next season in the same lens as this one. Experienced heads who know the premiership and the requirements will be vital imo.

Depends on the fee of course but think he’d do well alongside Chilwell to give us an older spine in the prem
 

HadjiChippo

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Not a statement signing, but more one for the future, Jordan James at Leicester looks like he’ll be a star in a few years, would be clever to snap him up cheap now. Think I saw Leicester had a £5 million option on him.

Trust Lampard would help take his game to new levels too.
 

baldy

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I know; but coming from a background of balancing budgets, I'd be wary of using much of it on players like this, as the consequences down the line financially would likely hamstring us. It feels like winning the lottery and forking out loads on a car that has huge depreciation value. Not necessarily a problem if it is perhaps one or two, but it's that category of player I'd steer furthest clear of.

You should be on the recruitment panel at City then seeing as you've got the required background
 

baldy

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Not a statement signing, but more one for the future, Jordan James at Leicester looks like he’ll be a star in a few years, would be clever to snap him up cheap now. Think I saw Leicester had a £5 million option on him.

Trust Lampard would help take his game to new levels too.

He's been around a while now though? Don't forget he was at Blues too
 

covcity4life

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Big chances missed:
1. Southampton (70)
2. Ipswich (66)
3. Coventry (60)
...
13. Boro (45)

xG difference:
1. Coventry (30.9)
2. Ipswich (27.4)
3. Boro (19.3)

From a creativity standpoint you're clearly quite far behind us & Ipswich. I think you'd be in a similar position if you had Vipotnik
Are those stats all season though? Prob best to measure it since they got their new manager?
 

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